How do you get around the global nature of headers? I don’t want “Notes” at the top of every page.
Modifying the Endnote page style seems to change only the page with that style. It leaves headers on other pages alone. I don’t know what would happen if you have so many endnotes that the system creates more endnote pages. Try it and see. I never have that many notes. .You might also want to fiddle with the header’s format to get everything looking right (eg take out any separator line)
Accessing the page styles is hard, but I think I’ve figured it out. I have two pages of endnotes currently, for which turning off “same on first page” is enough; I don’t know what would happen if I had three pages.
A MORE COMPLETE SOLUTION:
Thanks for this conversation.
I found a way to put text at the start of the Endnotes section (I put simply the single word “Endnotes”), and have that appear only on the first page, and not on subsequent pages.
I formatted the Page Style for Endnote. Went to Header, turned Header on, unchecked Same content on left and right pages (which probably didn’t matter), unchecked Same content on first page.
I put the content that I wanted into the header of the first page of Endnotes.
Then I went back, edited the Endnote page style again, and made sure Auto-Fit height was checked, but Height itself was at the minimum (it wouldn’t go below 0.04").
Incidentally, I set the style for the “Endnote” title the same as my chapter headings (Heading 1), and adjusted the height above and below. So now it stylistically matches my chapter headings.
To get the vertical spacing for “Endnotes” to stick through TOC updates, I had to adjust spacing in the Paragraph.
Done!
Select your document content → Insert Section → on Footnotes/Endnotes tab → Endnotes, then select “Collect at the end of the section”.
Now you’ll be able to add any text before the endnotes, use a page break to any page style, etc.
You can use this to get endnotes by chapter, for example.
A better way. Thanks.
That’s how it is set up: the endnotes start their own page at the end of the document. (I would love to get rid of the separate page, too, but that’s a separate question, I think.) I don’t want a page break; I want to label the effing page. And HOW do I “add any text before the endnotes”??? That’s my problem: I can’t. It steadfastly and resolutely stays part of the first endnote. And I can’t “select my document content” – it’ll only let me select one endnote at a time.
I tried putting the cursor at the beginning of the first endnote (or as close as I can get, which is before the L in my example). Then I did the Insert menu - Section - Footnote/Endnote - collect at end box. Guess what I got? EXACTLY THE SAME THING. Character-for-character exactly the same behavior as I describe in my question.
To apply @RGB-es’ solution, put the cursor anywhere in your text (not endnotes) and Ctrl+A, then insert section, etc.
It is a very good trick +1
This hack only allows me to put text on the same page as the endnotes, close to them but still separate in the underlying structure. (Elsewhere in the document, I need the separator line between text and footnotes, so the other answer’s hack of using the page header may be better suited to my purposes.) Does LO really absolutely enforce such a senseless separation between document and endnotes?
And a new problem: why is it adding so much space above the endnote? I can’t get my text any closer than about an inch above it. I’ve set everything I can find, such as the separation betweeen footnotes and text, to zero, but it does no good. Where is this setting hidden, and how is it (mis)labeled?
I can’t reproduce your problems. In my test, added test is immediately followed by endnotes, once separator line is removed., no “so much space”, in fact none at all. I must add some manually.
Please edit your question to describe step by step what you precisely did. Since your karma is 11, you can also attach a sample file with the problem.
The extra space above the endnotes appears to be an off-and-on glitch or bug in styles or their on-screen rendering: updating the styles sometimes fixes it. Other times it takes closing and re-opening the file.
Addition to @RGB-es’ answer:
To get rid of the horizontal segment between text in the section (presumably a heading and possibly an introductory paragraph), go to Format → Page, Footnotes tab and set Separator Line, Length to 0%
EDIT 2017-11-19
Sample file attached: NoteSample.odt
Huh? This has absolutely nothing to do with my question. The default is for a quarter-length line between text and footnotes, yes, but I’m not talking about footnotes.
The separator line appeared when I experimented the suggestion. I re-checked to see if I made a mistake and I confirm a separator line replaces the page break between text and endnotes. Consequently, there is a need to wipe out the separator.
A MORE COMPLETE SOLUTION:
Thanks for this conversation.
I found a way to put text at the start of the Endnotes section (I put simply the single word “Endnotes”), and have that appear only on the first page, and not on subsequent pages.
This has worked for three pages of endnotes so far, so I’m confident it will work for an unlimited number of endnotes.
I formatted the Page Style for Endnote. Went to Header, turned Header on, unchecked Same content on left and right pages (which probably didn’t matter), unchecked Same content on first page.
I put the content that I wanted into the header of the first page of Endnotes.
Then I went back, edited the Endnote page style again, and made sure Auto-Fit height was checked, but Height itself was at the minimum (it wouldn’t go below 0.04").
Incidentally, I set the style for the “Endnote” title the same as my chapter headings (Heading 1), and adjusted the height above and below. So now it stylistically matches my chapter headings.
I left the headers for the subsequent pages blank. So now those pages go almost all the way to the top of the page.
To get the spacing for “Endnotes” to stick through TOC updates, I had to adjust spacing in the paragraph.
Done!
Good trick but I wonder if a Heading 1 in the header has adverse consequences. Have you a table of contents in your document? In this case does the “Endnotes” title appear in it?
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I’m not sure if the update in the answer addresses my question. Headers are pieces of text repeated on every page. Consequently, their page number is not defined.
I just made an experiment. Apparently, the header is captured when it is first needed and the Heading 1 paragraph gets the first page number of the page style. However, when there are other Heading 1 in the page, the order in which they are listed in the TOC seems to depend on the order of addition.
Your case is safe because you unchecked Same content on first page and you have no othe Heading 1 in this page.
As of at least LibreOffice Community version 7.1.7.2, an endnote page header can be added by selecting Insert > Header and Footer > Header > Endnote. Text can then be added and formatted within the endnote header as desired.
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