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Why not use faenza icon theme as icon theme option? [closed]

asked 2013-04-22 23:59:20 +0200

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updated 2013-06-03 03:14:55 +0200

oweng gravatar image

I'm not undestarnd why not uses faenza icon theme as icon theme option for libreoffice, or better as icon theme default. If libreoffice team are trying for awesome software, the option of a good icon theme as faenza libreoffice is a good option.

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manj_k gravatar imagemanj_k ( 2013-04-23 23:57:56 +0200 )edit

it just looks good, not yet feels good.

jiero gravatar imagejiero ( 2013-06-03 04:57:48 +0200 )edit

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answered 2013-06-03 03:20:23 +0200

oweng gravatar image

There is now a Design Whiteboard for a flat icon set, which is effectively identical to the Faenza icon set mentioned in the question. A link to the related mailing list discussion is available on the wiki page.

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answered 2013-04-24 12:31:38 +0200

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updated 2013-04-26 09:09:13 +0200

Today was published the following blog post:

It invites users to comment on adding/changing icons. If interested please contribute.

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answered 2013-04-23 02:03:55 +0200

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updated 2013-04-23 02:12:36 +0200

I can't directly answer your question as to why this icon set is not used as the default for LO. That is for the developers to consider. Here are some things I noticed however regarding the licensing:

  • The original Faenza icon theme was designed for Gnome. The latest release (v1.3) states "This work is released under the GNU/GPL license" and going to the download site it indicates "GNU GPL v3". The COPYING file within the download confirms this.
  • The Faenza icon theme you link to (v0.3.2-d) is a customised / cut-down subset for LibreOffice v4.0.x. On that page it states "License: LGPL" and the link is v3 of that license. Nowhere does it indicate that this icon set has been re-licensed. The download contains no license information (other than in one PNG and some of the SVGs). The copyright file in the debian sub-directory is empty (0kB).
  • LibreOffice on its license page states: "new contributions are dual-licensed under both LGPLv3+ and MPL".

My understanding of these licenses is rudimentary to say the least. GPLv3 and LGPLv3 would appear to be compatible, at least in the LGPLv3 to GPLv3 direction, but not the other way. MPL (and possibly LGPLv3+) licensing would likely need to be obtained from the original author of the original Faenza Gnome icon theme. MPL licensing would also likely need to be obtained from the author of the modified Faenza LO derivative icon theme.

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I see there has been some attempt to link this "Faenza-based" theme with the "Flat Icons" project.

David gravatar imageDavid ( 2013-06-03 10:58:20 +0200 )edit

Yes. With good reason. If you download the two sets and compare like-for-like icons you soon realise they are, for the most part, the same graphics / designs. The faenza-for-LO version has more colour icons, while the flat set have more monochrome. At this point working out who copied what is likely to be pointless. I just hope Issa does a good job on the flat icon set.

oweng gravatar imageoweng ( 2013-06-03 13:37:16 +0200 )edit

answered 2013-04-23 07:59:54 +0200

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updated 2013-04-23 08:02:53 +0200

Don't have an answer... Interesting icons, but I would not set black & white icons as default icons. I think LibreOffice should have the icons specific to the operating system it is run on. This is in my humble opinion the only "professional" criteria. This would eliminate user's confusion what are the actions taken when clicked on icons.

There should in my humble opinion be other operating system specifics integrated into LibreOffice like File | Exit (Windows OK) on Linux distributions should be File | Quit. Tools | Options should be moved to Edit | Preferences. Firefox does nice job of this kind of adoption to make it more natural to the native users of operating system.

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answered 2013-04-23 10:41:41 +0200

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I once had a look at the various sets of LibO icons and found that a set created out to the existing one would be quite nice and easy to understand. However, I never had the time to really create my own preferred set.

It would already be helpful to have the possibility to easily select from the various LibO icon sets.

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Changing icons is already possible: Tools | Options | LibreOffice | View | Icon size and style. In my humble opinion users would like to have many different styles, because non of them is really good. I think using operating system default icons would be the best way to go. But I think theres icosn could be right protected.

froz gravatar imagefroz ( 2013-04-23 13:56:28 +0200 )edit

@froz - in the menu you indicated one can replace a complete set by another complete set. I tried several of these sets and came to the conclusion that a mixture of icons from 2 - 3 sets would suit me the very best. If such a selection could be made possible, it would be very good.

ROSt52 gravatar imageROSt52 ( 2013-04-24 08:33:02 +0200 )edit

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