What is causing orange dot?

[maple7]

I was given a .DOC file to work on. When opened in Office 2010, it looks fine. When opened in LibreOffice 6.1.6 (also earlier versions), there is a large orange dot on the bottom of some of the pages. I think it has to do with pages that have a frame. I tried deleting the dot and while it did delete the large dot, there is a smaller dot left behind that can not be selected. Sometimes though, the smaller dot can be deleted but there’s always another dot behind it. Seems infinite. Since I don’t have enough karma to upload the sample file, I’ve put it on a website I manage at: http://nhhr.dimentech.com/orangedot.doc
This is a single page from the original document with most all of the content removed.

Thank you to everyone that has been helping to understand this issue. It looks the dots are artifacts caused by Office embedding something due to a paste perhaps? The dots are tied to some of the section headers in the original document.

I’ve attached the orangedot.doc file to this question for posterity.

Using MS Office 2010, I copied the section header up to just before the beginning of the following paragraph and pasted it into Thunderbird as HTML. I then looked at the source. This is what I found.

<h2><span style="mso-ignore:vglayout;position:
absolute;z-index:251583488;margin-left:419px;margin-top:1683px;width:255px;
      height:251px"><img...DELETED FOR BREVITY..."
        width="255" height="251"></span><a name="_Toc9323910"></a><span
      style="mso-ignore:vglayout;position:
absolute;z-index:251561984;margin-left:564px;margin-top:1920px;width:57px;
      height:58px"><img
src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhOQA6AHcAMSH+GlNvZnR3YXJlOiBNaWNyb3NvZnQgT2ZmaWNlACH5BAEAAAAALAsACwAZABkAhQAAAP+IM/+GOf2EN/uGNf+GN/6GN/+HN/+EO/+AM/+GO/2FOP+EOf2GN/2GNf+HOP6GOP+GOP6GNv2COf6HN/+GNf6FN/+FNv+EN/2GNv+IOf6FOP+FOP2FN/+HNv+IN/2EOf+IRAECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwECAwbJQIBwSAQIjMWkElAwOJ+Gw1JpAAysyIZzKiRsHxBD5FBoSCYAA2U5iAIsz4PcWbikq0nDA6CFPvsZaVJFVU1Nfk8RBhBphAAbBn2IiQZHeABrHJObUVoFQlWSnE8dBh4LeIWjkw2NbQ1zq36NjbJ+ZI1aqIe2Bp+pTLy2rcCitozAFL69kQCDjaW9ErSgEc6rfdRDBhN/k4oFY5dDDwYOTE6AB06BWldJTVIWwk52yq1LIFutUp8f2lwOkVlwQNk4LkOuSLH2TkkQADs="
        width="57" height="58"></span><span style="mso-bookmark:
      _Toc9323910"></span><span style="mso-ignore:vglayout;position:
absolute;z-index:251563008;margin-left:564px;margin-top:1920px;width:57px;
      height:58px"><img

      **************** REPEATS MANY TIMES ****************

src="data:image/gif;base64,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"
        width="57" height="58"></span><span style="mso-bookmark:
      _Toc9323910">7.1 Introduction</span></h2>

[orangedot.doc|attachment](upload://w9RUcUQUdcA35JBJDvKr3bHu5PN.doc)

[gabix]

You’d better show the file.

[maple7]

Is there a way to upload the doc file or do I need to share it via a website I manage?

[gabix]

You can upload a file here. Just edit your question and click on the staple icon in the editing field toolbar. However, you need enough karma to do it. Some people here may increase your karma, not me. So, well, use your site or any file sharing service.

[maple7]

That makes sense about karma. Since I don’t have enough karma yet, I’ll put it on a website I manage:
http://nhhr.dimentech.com/orangedot.doc

[JohnD]

I agree with your description of the problem as seen in your sample document. This seems to be some kind of problem with the original MS Word document. It is really odd that you can delete the big dot but that the small ones seem to be infinitely deep. When opened with MS Word the dots can be seen when you set the View to Read Mode or Web Layout. This might indicate a situation in MS Word that some kind of HTML code is not translated over to the document edit view. I couldn’t find a way in MS Word to delete the small dot(s) either. LIbre Writer seems to be converting that bad code into the situation we see. Fix ???

[gabix]

I could not delete the problem dot neither in LibreOffice Writer 6.2, nor in Apache OpenOffice Writer 4.1.6. Only deleting the subheading ‘7.1 Introduction’ solved the problem. Well, I see no good solution except:
a) find the problem paragraph;
b) cut to the clipboard;
c) paste special as unformatted text;
d) apply the required style.

[PYS]

Hi

the smaller dot can be deleted but there’s always another dot behind it. Seems infinite.

Infinite? No, only 21. Besides, they are groups.

Moving them as in the screenshot above allows you to surround them with the mouse and delete them at once by pressing the Delete key.

Regards

[gabix]

I could not even select such an object with the mouse in LO. However, in AOO it works. But deleting 21 objects one by one is tedious.

[PYS]

I could not even select such an object with the mouse in LO

My screenshot is with LO

deleting 21 objects one by one is tedious

As I said, after I moved and them all I drag a selection frame around the objects and delete by one delete

[JohnD]

Found this way to delete all the orange dots at one time using Libre Writer —

Switch to View - Web, scroll down to see both large and small dot, drag a selection around both, hit delete.

Go back to View - Normal

Crazy issue !! (Thanks Microsoft)