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Spell Check & Initial Caps

asked 2021-03-04 21:09:30 +0200

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I'm editing a document in Writer that contains alot of words with initial caps, ie. proper names of people, companies, places, and things. The spell checker tags every one of them as a misspelled word. Word processors I've used in the past (going as far back as the late 1980's) have had a setting to tell the spell checker to ignore words with initial caps, but I can't find that setting in Writer. Does that option exist?

My version is 7.0.3.1 (x64) used on Win10.

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answered 2021-03-05 03:12:54 +0200

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Tools => Options… => Language Settings => Writing Aids => Options => Check uppercase words
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No. That doesn't do it. I said words with initial caps (proper nouns) not uppercase words. Uppercase words have EVERY letter capitalized. A proper noun has only the first letter capitalized and is the name of someone or something. And, since a proper noun can legally contain any combination of characters there can never be a comprehensive dictionary of them, hence they can't be accurately spell checked - ie. you can't presume to tell a stranger they've misspelled their own name.

The use of proper nouns is part of basic grammar taught in grade school, so it's really hard to believe that a highly evolved word processor like Writer, is still spell checking them by default when the most ancient word processors from the dawn of time were smart enough to ignore them unless they were the first word in a sentence.

PS. I could upload ...(plus)

C6er gravatar imageC6er ( 2021-03-05 12:14:57 +0200 )edit

There is no such option in LibreOffice. This is not necessary as the spelling checker does not highlight words with a capital letter at the beginning of the word.

You may need to update your dictionary. Unfortunately, I will not help you much, because I do not know what language you speak. You should search for information about dictionaries using Google. Start with the phrase "[your_language] libreoffice dictionary"

Astur gravatar imageAstur ( 2021-03-05 15:53:10 +0200 )edit

Why is it "not necessary"? The reason I posted the question in the 1st place is because it absolutely does highlight (red squiggly line below) words that begin with a capital letter. The document I'm working on is full of them, and they're all proper nouns - ie. names of people, places, and things.

How would updating the dictionary help since these kinds of proper nouns are never found in an ordinary dictionary?? The png snippet I took of a small part of the document illustrates the issue, but there's no way to send it - neither here, nor via your "no-reply" email address.

C6er gravatar imageC6er ( 2021-03-05 20:52:47 +0200 )edit

Can you specify the language in which your documents are written?

Astur gravatar imageAstur ( 2021-03-11 01:18:53 +0200 )edit

English. Non UK English.

I'd still like to know why the option to turn off spell checking proper nouns is "not necessary".

C6er gravatar imageC6er ( 2021-03-11 15:42:45 +0200 )edit

Please take a look at this picture:

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This is a screenshot of a document created in LO 7.1.0.3 running from Appimage. As you can see, English (USA) is set for checking. There are many proper names here. Some words are underlined in red, but most are not.

Do you want LibreOffice to behave this way?

Astur gravatar imageAstur ( 2021-03-11 16:44:21 +0200 )edit

Astur, Your example only proves that Writer has a list of U.S. senators and Middle East countries.

| For a comprehensive test, copy and paste the text below into Libre Writer. It will tag at least 30 correctly spelled proper nouns as being misspelled. This demonstrates why we need an option to turn off spell checking for words with initial caps.

| Deshaun and Razmus sent their Azawakh dog, Pootertoot, to Enceladus on Dr. Reskin’s orders to help it recover from Fibrodysplasia.

Frobish’s letter, postmarked Placentia, CA, went to Whynot, NC via an RPO staffed by Edwyna Fairbottom and Nelneddy Wholehouser pulled by an Alco locomotive driven by Farleigh Ankledy.

Spinosaurus and Baryonyx preyed on Coccosteus.

Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies were edited by Tregoweth Brown using Libre software.

Jawless fishes belong to the superclass Agnatha in the phylum Chordata.

Alexias and Gymkata Merryweather have moved to Hopejoy Idaho.

C6er gravatar imageC6er ( 2021-03-13 19:38:18 +0200 )edit

You may not see it, but you've already answered your own question: If the editor had an option to exclude proper names from checking, the user's error would go unnoticed. Therefore, proper names must be in the dictionary. If they are not there, you need to update the dictionary or enter the names yourself.

The provider of the English dictionaries for LibreOffice is Marco A.G. Pinto. From his website you can download the latest versions of dictionaries prepared for installation in LibreOffice.

If these dictionaries are not enough, you can ask their creator to complete the data. You can also collect these words yourself and send them to the dictionary creator for completion.

Astur gravatar imageAstur ( 2021-03-14 02:39:40 +0200 )edit

You're missing the point. It's not about dictionaries nor user errors. It's about CHOICE! It's about giving control back to the user where it belongs. If I want to take responsibility for spelling a proper noun, then that's my choice. Besides, I've already shown you how utterly useless and unreliable the spellchecker is with proper nouns. If Lotus' Ami Pro could offer the option to ignore them back in 1991, what has changed in 30 years that stops Writer from offering it now? Is the staff really that arrogant?

C6er gravatar imageC6er ( 2021-03-15 15:59:05 +0200 )edit
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