the quickstarter is completely missing

I already covered that! libreoffice-systray is not in the ubuntu repositories

$ sudo apt-get install libreoffice-systray = “Unable to locate package libreoffice-systray”.

Ok, I’m here with LO5.3.2.2 from Ubuntu with additional ppa:

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu xenial main

I never use this quickstarter-thing regularly.

Wie geht es Karolus!

I will try that, but I just installed the ppa’s for KXStudio (no errors) and even after reloading and rebooting they are not listed in synaptic. So wish me luck!

Bis später.

Well that backfired! I got this error:

GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu xenial InRelease: The following signatures couldn’t be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 83FBA1751378B444The repository ‘http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu xenial InRelease’ is not signed.

ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-3 works, Now I just hope it doesn’t give me all kinds of new problems! :wink:

Well, wouldn’t you know it, Just installed the ppa, and updated LO, and installed the libreoffice-systray (now an option), and the quick starter is back.

Some of you have no use for the quick starter, but it is a convenience I have grown used to, because I use LibreOffice a lot. If I could afford a data base programmer, an IT tech and a secretary, it would be different.

@Zoidman: you need to install the missing public key for each repo when you first add them. The key and the commands are mentioned on each PPA page under the hidden “click me”-style area, but now that you have the key given to you, run sudo apt-get install add-apt-key, sudo add-apt-key 83FBA1751378B444, sudo apt-get update and try again. I prefer to use aptitude instead of the apt-* suite.

Looks like Canonical has once again removed something from Ubuntu without any kind of documentation (I searched high and low), who knows why or where it went, or if and when it will be back?

When I upgraded From Linux Studio 16.04 to 16.10, I got what I thought was the newest version of LO, but the quick starter and the option to install it just vanished. If this happens to you, either live with it, or install the most recent LibreOffice “Fresh” PPA to always have the newest stable version of LibreOffice, and some additions to it, even if canonical has not approved of it yet and added it to the Ubuntu repositories. You need to tell APT to install libreoffice-systray, it does not install by default with LO.

In the few Years I have been Using LibreOffice on Ubuntu, I have had to wait for new features others were already using for months, and have come across many problems I was told to fix this way, but was always afraid to do it because Canonical does not approve of the method. Now I will see if there really is anything to worry about, in always updating to the most recent and cutting edge LO. :>)

(Just intersted as a noob:)
Did the “native” .deb from the downloadarchive or from the LibO download pages direct the user profile (and everything?) to the same subdirectory as the package from the linux distributor’s repository did?
Did you explore the point where the distrubutor had replaced a standard dialog window by another one? Does Canonical give any ecxplanation/documantation about their specific way to package LibO?

How did something removed by Canonical from Ubuntu change a LibO dialog which is in place again then after using the native LibO packge from tdf?

Your first sentence is unclear, but I did not use the .deb (thats so windows), I installed the ppa which tells APT where the files are, and installed them from there. That way I will get notified of updates, and can upgrade with one click.

In Linux, you don’t worry about where things get installed, because your personal settings are always stored separately and protected.

libreoffice-systray (an addon for LO) adds it to the dialog in LO.

Canonical? Sometimes, maybe, I couldn’t find it! :0

Canonical plays it safe,if something may cause a problem they remove it from their repository (it may come back). When I upgraded from Ubuntu 16.04 to 16.10, it installed LO 3.2.2.2, but removed the quickstarter app (libreoffice-systrey). By getting the LO 3.3 from LO directly I also got the quickstarter, I did have to install it separately though.

The old LO was upgraded (overwritten), so I only have the new one now. You can have two versions and in the same place, Linux can tell them apart!

“… but I did not use the .deb (thats so windows)…” ?.
Of course you used an installable package. You did not use msiexec.exe (which actually is the windows way) to extract files and to put them into the appropriate places, but the respective means coming with ubuntu. and handled with apt-get. Combining the download with the installation process is not the secret of the ages and can also be done under Win.
(I experimented with linux and would prefer it if not … the well known reasons.)

@Lupp: correction: the apt-* suite only deals with the repo management and instructing wget with downloading the correct packages. It’s dpkg which installs the downloaded DEBs.

I know I used a .deb, but indirectly. A lot of what you said made me think that you are using Linux, but trying to do things the Windows way (very common for noobs). Win and Linux both have problems, but for different reasons. The reason I made an abrupt switch to Linux, is because Windows is spyware of the worst kind, and M$ a selfish oligarchy! Their “abUser agreement” shits on the constitution of the U.S.A. Having to use a terminal once in a while is no comparison, and has become easy.

You don’t need the Quickstarter. You add Office to your Panel and you you give to startup with starting your device.
Quite simple.
It works fine with the Mac, with Windows and Linux anyways.

Don’t shoot the messenger. I realise the topic has become quite heated. I am a user, not a developer, but I no longer use the Quickstarter on my systems or those I install for other people.

We are told the original benefits we originally may have obtained from the Quickstarter have been replaced by improvements in the LibO startup time and resources used. Avoiding the “Quickstarter” also helps reduce any conflicts between the .config/libreoffice files being triggered on system startup before it is actually used. I attach a brief extract from the LibO 5.4 release notes below. LibO 5.4 is now available.

LibreOffice 5.4: Release Notes

Feature removal / deprecation

General
• The Linux Quickstarter is deprecated and will be removed in the next release.

QuickStart was removed from LibreOffice for Linux. Too bad. I’m back to OpenOffice because of that. QuickStart still works fine on OpenOffice.

No QuickStarter setting on my Linux, but apparently LibreOffice becomes quick starting on its own after initially loading it. Reloads almost instantly every time during the same Linux session.

The Linux Quickstarter was removed in LO 6.1.