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why isn't there a file rename option?

asked 2018-04-04 16:05:37 +0100

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part of revising a document is setting its name, yet to change the name, one must exit the document and rename the file, or make a copy with a different name and remember to delete the original. 'rename' is a fundamental operation

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The advantage of using "Save as" is that it creates a 'paper trail' of revisions, which is a Good Thing for both operational and legal purposes. And having to use a separate file manager to change the name ensures that it is a deliberate act, not done by accident. You make a good point about 'rename' being a fundamental operation but I can't recall any office suite that offered it.

ve3oat gravatar imageve3oat ( 2018-04-04 16:19:57 +0100 )edit

yes, it would be good if having renamed the document was added to one revision history for the doc. Having n files with n different names is not a very good way to keep a revision history for a doc. Firstly it isn't clear in which order they go in. If one does a file system level copy operation on the files then that resets the file dates to the copy time, and it becomes impossible to know the order. It isn't a good way to do a revision history.

all-black gravatar imageall-black ( 2018-04-08 21:09:18 +0100 )edit

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answered 2018-04-04 17:59:00 +0100

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<sarcasm> There's this feature called "Save As". It's awesome. It lets you save the document, get this, with any name you want. It's not just for saving in another format. Amazing, huh? </sarcasm>

Seriously, the 'rename' function you are looking for is available under "Save As..."

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That does a copy not a rename. As such the old file name persists. Having two files for the same source leads to ambiguity, which is why rename is preferred. 'Save As' followed by delete of the old file is a rename operation, but as the process is split between the file system and working on the doc, there is danger of accidentally deleting the wrong one and of race conditions with saves.

all-black gravatar imageall-black ( 2018-04-08 21:05:41 +0100 )edit
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answered 2018-04-04 21:38:56 +0100

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Most operating systems will allow you to rename in an open file dialog by right clicking on the file you want to rename and selecting rename in the popup menu. Keep in mind that if file is listed in the recently opened files list and you rename it you wont be able to open it from the recent file list as the name is different.

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error prone. If the file is open, and this is done, then saved. It is a race condition, and unclear which is the new one.

all-black gravatar imageall-black ( 2018-04-08 21:02:37 +0100 )edit
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