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asked 2018-06-13 10:24:44 +0200

Roger1944 gravatar image

I downloaded the program using Microsoft Edge. (New computer, new browser). When prompted to save pressed save without noticing the destination. Saved work has now disappeared.

If I delete this copy and download the program again using Firefox instead will I be faced with thee same saving problem.

It has taken me well over an hour to get this far with my question. Is this a record? And that was before the captcha suddenly switched to Chinese characters. However sending feedback switched it back to English so I ame continuing to try and get this question accepted.

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What is a problem with LibreOffice? Is there it?

kompilainenn gravatar imagekompilainenn ( 2018-06-13 10:52:39 +0200 )edit

Do I understand your problem correctly:

  1. You have downloaded LibreOffice using Edge; installed it; then used LibreOffice to work with a document (of undisclosed source), and saved it without noticing where;
  2. Then you were unable to find it;
  3. Then you guessed it's because your LibreOffice was downloaded wrongly, and re-downloaded it using Firefox, and reinstalled;
  4. Then found out that (naturally) LibreOffice continues to behave the same way?
Mike Kaganski gravatar imageMike Kaganski ( 2018-06-13 12:34:32 +0200 )edit

Could you clarify which files are saved into a temporary folder? The installation files for LibreOffice, or some other files?

jonpatterns gravatar imagejonpatterns ( 2018-06-13 13:54:42 +0200 )edit

Sorry for the delay. I am not computer literate enough to realise that I needed to refresh the page in order to see any replies.

So far I have only downloaded LibreOffice once. The reason I thought it might be a peculiarly Microsoft problem is in the address for the now missing files.

On the Recent files page I can see three documents but clicking on any one of them produces an error message which ends with “”does not exist”.


Roger1944 gravatar imageRoger1944 ( 2018-06-13 17:23:20 +0200 )edit

Seems I wrote too much in my previous message. This is the how it should have ended. C:\Users\rchap\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge_8wekyb3d8bbwe\TempState\Downloads\Outline Descendant Report for Isaac Griggs.odt does not exist.

Click on open file and the only file now available is the just downloaded Firefox installer which I can't see LibreOffice opening.

Roger1944 gravatar imageRoger1944 ( 2018-06-13 17:26:36 +0200 )edit

Sigh. See my answer below. Unfortunately, that's it.

Mike Kaganski gravatar imageMike Kaganski ( 2018-06-13 17:29:56 +0200 )edit

Thanks Mike and others for the help. Now at least I know what happened. Still looking for a better way to save to a safe place than saving to current location and then dragging the closed file to documents.

Roger1944 gravatar imageRoger1944 ( 2018-06-13 18:41:22 +0200 )edit

If you are in a browser: don't let it "Open" files; always choose "Save (as)". If you have a "Save as" (with "as"), you will be able to choose the placement right away.

If you are already in LibreOffice (or another program that opens the downloadd document): Use File->Save As and choose the placement.

Mike Kaganski gravatar imageMike Kaganski ( 2018-06-13 18:45:15 +0200 )edit

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answered 2018-06-13 13:21:37 +0200

floris v gravatar image

If you don't know where the downloaded install file was saved to, it's probably in <user name="">\Downloads. Next time you save something, don't try to save some time by not looking at what you're doing. The dialog window is there for a reason, to inform you. If you actually managed to install it and started a document and can't find where it was saved, it's probably in <user name="">My Documents. Restart Libre, the opening window lists the most recently opened/created files, and yours should be there.

On a side note, if you are a complete novice to computers, you're probably better off with Windows than with Linux.

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You are partly right. Linux is way above my limited skills.

But on the question of saving you are wrong. The file destination is not quoted. All that is shown is the file name and "Save as type"

Roger1944 gravatar imageRoger1944 ( 2018-06-13 17:18:57 +0200 )edit

answered 2018-06-13 15:23:44 +0200

Mike Kaganski gravatar image

updated 2018-06-13 15:30:13 +0200

Just a note: if you happened to open a document downloaded from a website (clicking its link in a browser like IE/Edge that offers you an option to "Open" it, as opposed to "Save" it), or from other applications that may store files in temporary locations for opening (like mailers), and you edit and save the document into the same place where it was opened from, then you may actually find out later that you won't find the file in that place. That's because those browsers, when "Opening" files, download them to a temporary location, and launch an assosiated program to show them from that temporary location. If you modify such a file, it doesn't prevent the browser from cleaning up its temporary storage from time to time. See tdf#117578 for an example.

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If I directly open a odf-file selected as a link in Firefox it is locally saved to a temp folder and opened read-only.
If I then enable editing and try to 'Save' the changed file, I'm forced to do it to a different folder.
Is this the default behaviour of Firefox on Win 10 or of LibO V6.x, or did I just fortunately change a setting to that effect?
Is only 'Edge' enjoying us with that trap? ??

Lupp gravatar imageLupp ( 2018-06-13 19:13:36 +0200 )edit

Well - we made some steps to treat files in TEMP directory specially. Possibly Firefox uses that directory, which allows us to handle that (i.e., set the read-only flag; I doubt that it's FF doing that somehow).

OTOH, MS stuff (Edge, Mail, etc.) now use some other fancy directories (you may see the example in the OP's comment). That's very inventive ;-) and helps everyone, you know :-)

Mike Kaganski gravatar imageMike Kaganski ( 2018-06-13 19:18:50 +0200 )edit

Firefox - or whatever - uses my ../Users/Myself/AppData/Local/Temp folder.

Lupp gravatar imageLupp ( 2018-06-13 19:23:31 +0200 )edit

... in other words, it uses your TEMP directory :-) - see the output of echo %TEMP%

Anyway, I need to look into the code - can't find a place quickly; and plain copy of a file to the TEMP does not make it open read-only; so my memory must fail here.

Found tdf#43895 - which is for non-Windows.

Mike Kaganski gravatar imageMike Kaganski ( 2018-06-13 19:28:04 +0200 )edit

answered 2018-06-13 12:01:50 +0200

gabix gravatar image
  1. Your question is off-topic here and is not good generally.
  2. Anyway, here's a good answer:

Throw out that Microsoft trash and install an open-source operating system like Linux or BSD.

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Oh come on, Windoze is quite useful for people who have to type lots of commands with many slashes. EDIT: I just received an unasked-for update of Windows with Dutch as interface language; the MS Store listed a lot of free software for download, including most widely used Linux branches (Suse, Kali, Ubuntu end some more).

floris v gravatar imagefloris v ( 2018-06-13 13:22:48 +0200 )edit

answered 2018-06-13 12:29:54 +0200

hjek gravatar image

If you don't notice what folder you save a particular document in, I guess it may seem like that document has "disappeared." However, if you saved it recently, you should be able to find it in File -> Recent Documents, or perhaps using the search function of your operating system.

LibreOffice will behave the same regardless of what web browser you used to download it, so unfortunately you will still be faced with the same saving problem by downloading LibreOffice using Firefox.

I doubt you have the record for spending one hour not finding something that you don't know where you put, but you could always apply and find out.

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