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when will page numbers be with section styles

asked 2021-05-03 06:03:00 +0200

bookwriterman gravatar image

for 7 years now i've been trying assorted hacks to get proper page numbering in writer with multisection docs.And seen hundreds of very frustrated people on the web who also can't hack out how to do page numbering. And nobody has any solution.

of course your non-intuitive approach to page numbers (attached to paragraph styles) works well for simple things like letters, essays,

but NOT for multi-section books with different sections like frontmatter and main bookmatter and backmatter

You don't understand???? Please listen. each section front, main, back RESTARTs renumbering the pages at page 1

Did you read that??? Three sections each starting at page 1.In the same document. NOT unusual. Common. Common. Common. The usual thing in books. And libreoffice just cannot handle this.

if in the main book section you have 10 chapters (all starting with same paragraph style) you don't want them all starting at page 1, just the chapter 1. So useless to tell a paragraph style to restart numbering pages.

Don't get it???? Reread what i just wrote. Reread it again. and again and again. until you get it.

Don't bother to answer me if you haven't read the problem at least 10 times. In the past i've only gotten replies from people who never read the question.

I'm so frustrated, angry and irritated by people who never read the problem and give CLICHE answers that don't apply to the problem. So please don't give pat but WRONG answers about page numbers in paragraph styles. Just say simply, yes or no. Just say yes you will or no you never will ever offer proper page numbering in sections. so we can all know finally to just give up on libreoffice, go elsewhere (and warn our friends to do the same).

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I feel frustrated by people not reading the manual. Just one example Sections are not Chapters.

I have many documents where the numbering restarts as you describe, some have roman numerals, some have arabic numerals, some have letters; all work perfectly, thank you.

Earnest Al gravatar imageEarnest Al ( 2021-05-03 08:14:38 +0200 )edit

easy to say things like i've been to the moon, but no way to do it libreoffice can do anything..... if you do it by hand.... so what

bookwriterman gravatar imagebookwriterman ( 2021-05-03 19:26:36 +0200 )edit

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answered 2021-05-03 08:11:21 +0200

ajlittoz gravatar image

First of all, we aren't developers but users helping other users with the tricks we've discovered on how to make things work the way we want. So we "can't offer proper X, Y or Z". We only configure LO so that it achieves the needed formatting.

Second, have you read the Writer Guide? Relying on one's own intuition (a masquerading word for "routine") to use any software application is not the best way learn it and use efficiently.

There a vocabulary ambiguity in your question. In Writer, a section is a part of a page with a different layout. Consequently, a section can't have a page number of its own.

You are likely talking about "parts" of a book with a distinctive formatting and layout (header, footer, margins, background, columns, page number style, ...). All these attributes are recorded in a page style. Every "part" has a dedicated page style (you can build "dynamic" page styles fitting several parts but this requires advance knowledge; start with simple "static" ones).

You switch from one page style to another one at the boundary between "parts" with a special page break (not the usual Ctrl+Enter which only adds a page break without changing the page style). This page break can be created

  • either with Insert>Manual Break>Other Break (wording not guaranteed because I have not presently the latest version on this computer)
  • or with a dedicated paragraph style configuration in Text Flow tab

In both cases, you choose the page style to switch to.

Optionally, you can reset the page number. If nothing is entered in the page number field, page number increments in sequence. It is reset only if an explicit non-zero value is given.

Just leave the field blank to keep the usual page number sequence.

If this doesn't solve your problem, make a skeleton sample file (5 pages max) and edit your question to attach it. A file is attached with the paperclip tool which is provided in a question, not in a comment. Don't use "Add answer" because this site is not a forum and answers are reserved for solutions.

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Optionally, you can reset the page number. If nothing is entered in the page number field, page number increments in sequence. It is reset only if an explicit non-zero value is given.

@bookwriterman: don't get it???? Reread what @ajlittoz just wrote. Reread it again. and again and again. until you get it.

Mike Kaganski gravatar imageMike Kaganski ( 2021-05-03 08:48:13 +0200 )edit

same old same old ... blame the questioner your ideas are old... 7 years old.... still don't work try it before you speak manual page break drops eventually via page inserted to first paragraph style of inserted page... it all goes back to paragraph style read the manual please if you don't understand

bookwriterman gravatar imagebookwriterman ( 2021-05-03 19:33:38 +0200 )edit

lol :-) it's easy to tell "nothing works" and then reply to anything "been there". Just describe what you try to do, then see how easy people implement that, then learn that you simply are incapable to learn.

And I bet that you replied without having read the answer at least 10 times

Mike Kaganski gravatar imageMike Kaganski ( 2021-05-03 19:39:36 +0200 )edit

same old same old.... insult the user easy to do after 7 years i probably know twice what you do about libreoffice and have probably read the manual much more than you have of course things can be done.... if you do it by hand or manually.... or semi-manually but you don't use libreoffice so you can get around its idiosyncracies by doing stuff by hand then you might as well just use a text editor

bookwriterman gravatar imagebookwriterman ( 2021-05-03 19:46:13 +0200 )edit

Aha, so a troll unable to describe any task that they complain about, only mumble. Miserable. Present a task, or get lost. And stop talking about something you don't know. Even if you saw the manual (you can't even describe something from it), you didn't understand nothing. "i probably know twice what you do about libreoffice" - lol, after you develop for LibreOffice at least half I did, I would start thinking you learned something.

Mike Kaganski gravatar imageMike Kaganski ( 2021-05-03 19:50:42 +0200 )edit

answered 2021-05-03 08:16:30 +0200

Then for 7 years you missed the point since the page numbering is done by the Page style.

See for example that FAQ about page numbering, there are other sections in this FAQ that should answer your question.

Basically, you need to insert Page breaks, either manually or with a heading style for example, see this page, it applies to restarting the page numbering at 1, too.

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go look at page styles.... nowhere is there in it is there a way to set starting page numbers page numbers in libreoffice are set by paragraph style.... please read the manual

bookwriterman gravatar imagebookwriterman ( 2021-05-03 19:29:49 +0200 )edit

@bookwriterman: first thing first, could you use some form of syntactically correct simplified English so that we can understand your plights? You have duplicated words, nearly no punctuation, many grammar mistakes … It is not a fault not being fluent in English, many questioners are in the same case, but they try to circumvent their (un)fluency by explaining with simple terms. Help us to help you. This means, explain what you try to achieve (quite clear: get continuous page numbering across page styles), how you do it (this is not explained), eventually attach a small sample file to your question, not to a comment.

ajlittoz gravatar imageajlittoz ( 2021-05-03 20:13:27 +0200 )edit

Well, last post in this discussion.

If there is one thing to understand, it's this screenshot:


Be it in a paragraph style or a direct formatting of a paragraph, the trick is to activate the page break and defining a page style (that can be the same as the previous page). Then, you have access to the numbering to be applied for the new page.

Hagar Delest gravatar imageHagar Delest ( 2021-05-03 21:18:44 +0200 )edit
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