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the quickstarter is completely missing

asked 2017-04-07 13:08:39 +0200

updated 2017-04-07 13:10:11 +0200

Version: 5.2.2.2 Build ID: 1:5.2.2-0ubuntu2 CPU Threads: 4; OS Version: Linux 4.8; UI Render: default; Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); Calc: group

On my XFCE desktop, the quickstarter has disappeared from the systrey, and the option to show it is gone too. I tried to turn it back on via Tools > Options > LibreOffice > Memory, but the option to do so is completely missing from the program settings. I searched everywhere to see if it had been moved, but no, its gone. I nuked my user profile, but that did not change a thing.

I can only find a very old case describing the same problem (LO V3.6) stating that libreoffice-systrey needs to be installed, but it does not exist on the Ubuntu repository, nor did I ever have to install it in the 2 years I have been using LO in linux, it was always just there.

Does anyone have this problem besides me? Can anyone tell me why it's gone, or how to get it back?

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answered 2017-07-30 17:45:33 +0200

You don't need the Quickstarter. You add Office to your Panel and you you give to startup with starting your device. Quite simple. It works fine with the Mac, with Windows and Linux anyways.

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answered 2017-07-31 18:03:34 +0200

petermau gravatar image

Don't shoot the messenger. I realise the topic has become quite heated. I am a user, not a developer, but I no longer use the Quickstarter on my systems or those I install for other people.

We are told the original benefits we originally may have obtained from the Quickstarter have been replaced by improvements in the LibO startup time and resources used. Avoiding the "Quickstarter" also helps reduce any conflicts between the .config/libreoffice files being triggered on system startup before it is actually used. I attach a brief extract from the LibO 5.4 release notes below. LibO 5.4 is now available.

LibreOffice 5.4: Release Notes

Feature removal / deprecation

General • The Linux Quickstarter is deprecated and will be removed in the next release.

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answered 2017-04-07 14:26:32 +0200

Lupp gravatar image

updated 2017-04-07 17:56:14 +0200

(I cannot test with Lnux.)
(Not quite for sure: ) There should still be an option to the wanted effect during installation / change installation.
(For sure concerning LibO5.3.x.y on Win:) The option you are looking for is still present under >'Tools'>'Options'>'LibreOffice'>'Memory'
(Not much use with this option imo.)
In addition: To place a link to call the software into the systray is a different thing. I always do this but never activate the quickstart option 'Load LibreOffice during system start-up'.

(Editing with respect to the comments below:)
ToolsOptionsLibreOfficeMemory.png
In rare cases a corrupted user profile may spoil a menu or a dialog.
(There is a variant of the 'Memory' settings dialog not containing the quickstarter option. It is used for PortableApps versions where the option is not appropriate. I do not know in what way the choice is managed.)

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I am not trying to install Libreoffice, I have had it installed for years, it updates automatically You may have to uninstall the old version prior to installing the new one, Linux doesn't have those problems.

The option I am looking for should be in the same place on Linux (used to be there), but now it is gone.

You have no use for anything that takes up any memory, because Windows 10 hogs 6GB as compared to the 64Mb Linux uses! With my frequent use of the program it's a great thing to have.

Zoidman gravatar imageZoidman ( 2017-04-07 15:28:01 +0200 )edit

Ok. I also update my LibO frequently (now V5.3.2.2RC). Every once I do it I can get a link on the desktop, but none in the systray. I have to move/copy one there. The quickstarter anyway is a different thing, isn't it?
If you actually miss the option where I still find it, you may well try to run your installer in "change" or in "repair" mode to see if there is an option.
By the way: I am neither a defender of MS strategies nor would I try to fight them with obviously wrong informations.

Lupp gravatar imageLupp ( 2017-04-07 16:59:56 +0200 )edit

Linux, and all installed programs get updated when updates are available through one common interface Apt, I only have to enter my password. I don't have to tell it where to put it, be careful of viruses, click on agreements or any of that.

Sorry Lupp, I am way past the simple and obvious, I need help by someone with deeper knowledge of the program, and in Linux, or other Linux users to confirm the problem, so I can file a bug report.

Zoidman gravatar imageZoidman ( 2017-04-07 21:21:00 +0200 )edit
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answered 2017-04-07 21:42:50 +0200

karolus gravatar image

Hallo

> sudo apt-get install libreoffice-systray
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I already covered that! libreoffice-systray is not in the ubuntu repositories

$ sudo apt-get install libreoffice-systray = "Unable to locate package libreoffice-systray".

Zoidman gravatar imageZoidman ( 2017-04-07 23:46:55 +0200 )edit

Ok, I'm here with LO5.3.2.2 from Ubuntu with additional ppa:

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu xenial main

I never use this quickstarter-thing regularly.

karolus gravatar imagekarolus ( 2017-04-08 00:07:53 +0200 )edit

Wie geht es Karolus!

I will try that, but I just installed the ppa's for KXStudio (no errors) and even after reloading and rebooting they are not listed in synaptic. So wish me luck!

Bis später.

Zoidman gravatar imageZoidman ( 2017-04-08 00:38:19 +0200 )edit

Well that backfired! I got this error:

GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/... xenial InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 83FBA1751378B444The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/... xenial InRelease' is not signed.

Zoidman gravatar imageZoidman ( 2017-04-08 00:40:48 +0200 )edit

ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-3 works, Now I just hope it doesn't give me all kinds of new problems! ;)

Zoidman gravatar imageZoidman ( 2017-04-08 00:48:21 +0200 )edit

Well, wouldn't you know it, Just installed the ppa, and updated LO, and installed the libreoffice-systray (now an option), and the quick starter is back.

Some of you have no use for the quick starter, but it is a convenience I have grown used to, because I use LibreOffice a lot. If I could afford a data base programmer, an IT tech and a secretary, it would be different.

Zoidman gravatar imageZoidman ( 2017-04-08 01:57:00 +0200 )edit

@Zoidman: you need to install the missing public key for each repo when you first add them. The key and the commands are mentioned on each PPA page under the hidden "click me"-style area, but now that you have the key given to you, run sudo apt-get install add-apt-key, sudo add-apt-key 83FBA1751378B444, sudo apt-get update and try again. I prefer to use aptitude instead of the apt-* suite.

rautamiekka gravatar imagerautamiekka ( 2017-04-09 13:11:20 +0200 )edit
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answered 2017-04-08 02:27:08 +0200

Looks like Canonical has once again removed something from Ubuntu without any kind of documentation (I searched high and low), who knows why or where it went, or if and when it will be back?

When I upgraded From Linux Studio 16.04 to 16.10, I got what I thought was the newest version of LO, but the quick starter and the option to install it just vanished. If this happens to you, either live with it, or install the most recent LibreOffice "Fresh" PPA to always have the newest stable version of LibreOffice, and some additions to it, even if canonical has not approved of it yet and added it to the Ubuntu repositories. You need to tell APT to install libreoffice-systray, it does not install by default with LO.

In the few Years I have been Using LibreOffice on Ubuntu, I have had to wait for new features others were already using for months, and have come across many problems I was told to fix this way, but was always afraid to do it because Canonical does not approve of the method. Now I will see if there really is anything to worry about, in always updating to the most recent and cutting edge LO. :>)

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(Just intersted as a noob:)
Did the "native" .deb from the downloadarchive or from the LibO download pages direct the user profile (and everything?) to the same subdirectory as the package from the linux distributor's repository did?
Did you explore the point where the distrubutor had replaced a standard dialog window by another one? Does Canonical give any ecxplanation/documantation about their specific way to package LibO?

Lupp gravatar imageLupp ( 2017-04-08 10:53:52 +0200 )edit

How did something removed by Canonical from Ubuntu change a LibO dialog which is in place again then after using the native LibO packge from tdf?

Lupp gravatar imageLupp ( 2017-04-08 10:59:05 +0200 )edit

Your first sentence is unclear, but I did not use the .deb (thats so windows), I installed the ppa which tells APT where the files are, and installed them from there. That way I will get notified of updates, and can upgrade with one click.

In Linux, you don't worry about where things get installed, because your personal settings are always stored separately and protected.

libreoffice-systray (an addon for LO) adds it to the dialog in LO.

Canonical? Sometimes, maybe, I couldn't find it! :0

Zoidman gravatar imageZoidman ( 2017-04-08 11:44:52 +0200 )edit

Canonical plays it safe,if something may cause a problem they remove it from their repository (it may come back). When I upgraded from Ubuntu 16.04 to 16.10, it installed LO 3.2.2.2, but removed the quickstarter app (libreoffice-systrey). By getting the LO 3.3 from LO directly I also got the quickstarter, I did have to install it separately though.

The old LO was upgraded (overwritten), so I only have the new one now. You can have two versions and in the same place, Linux can tell them apart!

Zoidman gravatar imageZoidman ( 2017-04-08 12:03:12 +0200 )edit

"... but I did not use the .deb (thats so windows)..." ?.
Of course you used an installable package. You did not use msiexec.exe (which actually is the windows way) to extract files and to put them into the appropriate places, but the respective means coming with ubuntu. and handled with apt-get. Combining the download with the installation process is not the secret of the ages and can also be done under Win.
(I experimented with linux and would prefer it if not ... the well known reasons.)

Lupp gravatar imageLupp ( 2017-04-08 19:45:40 +0200 )edit

@Lupp: correction: the apt-* suite only deals with the repo management and instructing wget with downloading the correct packages. It's dpkg which installs the downloaded DEBs.

rautamiekka gravatar imagerautamiekka ( 2017-04-09 13:08:36 +0200 )edit

I know I used a .deb, but indirectly. A lot of what you said made me think that you are using Linux, but trying to do things the Windows way (very common for noobs). Win and Linux both have problems, but for different reasons. The reason I made an abrupt switch to Linux, is because Windows is spyware of the worst kind, and M$ a selfish oligarchy! Their "abUser agreement" shits on the constitution of the U.S.A. Having to use a terminal once in a while is no comparison, and has become easy.

Zoidman gravatar imageZoidman ( 2017-04-09 14:34:28 +0200 )edit
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