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2013-02-27 06:55:50 +0100 beantwoorde een vraag Why does Writer offer two options for saving in DOCX format?

EDIT: This answer contains several inaccuracies. I (@oweng) have tried to edit it, but the site keeps dying, so I have posted a separate answer.

Sorry the answer to the ASKED question.

Why [does] Writer offer TWO option of saving document in DOCS format?

1. Microsoft 2007/2010 docx
2. Office Open XML docs

From wikipedia

1) Microsoft 2007/2010 docx

The Microsoft Office XML formats are XML-based document formats (or XML schemas) introduced in versions of Microsoft Office prior to Office 2007. Microsoft Office XP introduced a new XML format for storing Excel spreadsheets and Office 2003 added an XML-based format for Word documents.[1]

These formats were succeeded by Office Open XML (ECMA-376) in Microsoft Office 2007.

2) Open Office XML docs

Office Open XML (also informally known as OOXML or OpenXML) is a zipped, XML-based file format developed by Microsoft[2] for representing spreadsheets, charts, presentations and word processing documents. The Office Open XML specification was initially standardised by Ecma (as ECMA-376) and later by ISO and IEC (as ISO/IEC 29500).

Starting with Microsoft Office 2007, the Office Open XML file formats have become the default[3] target file format of Microsoft Office.[4][5]

Does it mean that 2nd option means FULL compliance
with ISO/IEC 29500:2008/ECMA-376 2nd edition (2008),
as MSO 2007/2010 is, as known, not fully compatible
with these standards?

Good question! @Khawar Nehal might have more info on this point. Per what he discovered on Wikipedia:

Microsoft Office 2010 provides read support for ECMA-376, read/write support for ISO/IEC 29500 Transitional, and read support for ISO/IEC 29500 Strict.[6] Microsoft Office 2013 additionally supports both reading and writing of ISO/IEC 29500 Strict.[7]

I'm not sure what that means for LO's support of this format.

Khawar Nehal



2013-02-27 06:51:29 +0100 beantwoorde een vraag Why does Writer offer two options for saving in DOCX format?

There are multiple DOC formats.

There was MS Word 1.0, 2.0 6.0 (No 3,4,5 because of wordperfect jealousy) then 95, 97,2000,2003,2007,2010 and now 2013. There are minor changes which MS makes to the formats.

LibreOffice allows saving to these formats to facilitate the receiver to get the one which closely matches their opening software.

If in doubt, save as DOC and not DOCX. Select the simplest Word 6.0 for max compatibility with most DOC opening softwares.

For max layout you need the max DOC format that is 97/2000/2003 DOC then for more compatibility use DOCX

More than that you need MS Office. You can use the web based version.

If you still have formatting issues, then you need to make sure all printer settings are ok.

Beyond that, you can ask the user to get libreoffice and send a odt.

More than that you need to use a PDF.

If you still need more than send a JPEG and hope the receiver knows how to print that in a reasonable size. Good luck.


Khawar Nehal

2013-02-27 06:39:32 +0100 beantwoorde een vraag HELP!: Issue opening recently saved ppt docs :(

First check the document by opening in another computer.

In case there was a corruption of the file because you were working on the same file.

There is a tip and habit I use and recommend for users.

When saving a file, suppose "my proposal".

I would save it as my_proposal_27_feb_2013-1 and the file would become my_proposal_27_feb_2013-1.odp

Then after a few minutes of work, due to habit I would save it as my_proposal_27_feb_2013-2 Only one character (the number) has to be changed when doing save as.

This is done even with auto save on at 5 minutes.

The advantage of this habit from the old days of computing and bad power supplies is that it reduces the chances of data loss.

If something bad happens, I lose at max a few minutes of work. Also I have old versions available in case I get stuck with formatting like a horizontal line which is not deletable.

This is a habit cultivated for all softwares on all systems. There is no issue of space and also (I just remembered) the big reason is that if the date is wrong the backup systems and archiving systems shall not destroy the latest versions.

Sometimes after many years if there is time, the old versions are selected and deleted.

Yes, people shall complain, but you still need to have a look at the 3TB harddisks available these days and compare to the size of your critical docs (puny).


Khawar Nehal