Libreoffice Writer: Version 26.xx, how do we turn off Asian editing options?

[jepe1]

Hi,

Is there a way to turn off Asian options in Libreoffice Writer?
I mean, in the base version?

I remember we could do this in one way or another.
Version 26.xx appears not to offer a way to do this anymore.

Do I miss something?

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illustration: setting the font for a style (version Writer 26.2.1.2)

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the context

Individuals adapt to the masses. Natural. Small groups to larger groups.
There is, however, a minority policy, too, keeping up the rights of small groups, as if they mattered the same as large groups.

Libreoffice was originally a Western thing. Now it has been extended to being global, handling Asian languages too. But at some point it flipped over. Now it’s Western, too.

Western users used to be able to turn off the Asian language options, dialogues whatsoever.
It would take 3 minutes at every new release. Cool, it was.

Look at it like there is a minority in a vast empire.
And from one day to the next they loose their right to write text
using their own language, and language tools, and they have to use the imperial language tools and opt for minority options at every step.

I find this really kafkaesque,
this is why I’m practically certain that I miss something.

[EarnestAl]

You may read some discussion in Bug 168719 - Always show RTL/CTL and CJK editing features

@jepe1

opt for minority options at every step.

China is largest population, India is huge, what minority?

[RobertG]

@EarnestAl

what minority?

The minority, which will use both font types at the same time. We should be able to turn off one on the tabs. It is irritating for normal user.
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Might be many person want to use 4k monitor. Width of the dialog for changing properties of a paragraph will grow from 841 px (LO 7.4) up to 1036 px (LO 26.2). Without this special kind of Western and Asian layout we could change the width to 610 px (sizable up to 1036px), because all other tabs won’t need so much width than this kind of showing both layouts together.

[Wanderer]

@jepe1

Do I miss something?

I have not found any mention of this in release notes, so it is ok to be surprised…

@jepe1

There is, however, a minority policy, too, keeping up the rights of small groups, as if they mattered the same as large groups.

Bad news for you: I is one of the basic questions in software development: The very small group of developers have ultimate rights and the (usually bigger) group of users has to accept or seek alternatives.
Luckily in open source communities you may revert this kind of decisions for you. (A colleague of me needed two years to stop using foul language, when confronted with M$-Office in new tabbed UI.)

[EarnestAl]

@RobertG

We should be able to turn off one on the tabs. It is irritating for normal user.

When I go into a styles dialogue, I ignore almost all the settings (over 90%) except the few I want to change. I do not find it irritating to see settings that I don’t use, I just focus on those I need to change.

@RobertG

The minority, which will use both font types at the same time.

Maybe, but for Asian and Complex language users, they could never turn off Western languages. So possibly a majority always had to see at least two layout possibilities.

[Hrbrgr]

@EarnestAl

Maybe, but for Asian and Complex language users, they could never turn off Western languages. So possibly a majority always had to see at least two layout possibilities.

Therefore, it is not better to remove the shutdown option, but rather to enable shutdown for both!