Libreoffice's v2 CPU requirements -- your older hardware will no longer work with LO

hi,

Looks like Libreoffice no longer supports older CPUs.

Question:
What does this mean?
For builds from TDF: x86-64-v2-level CPU
(this is in the system requirement which I never had to consult ever, so far.)
see: System requirements — LibreOffice

I don’t know what TDF is.
I reserve the space in my mind for real things to be memorize, not abbreviations.

I don’t know what v2 level means.

I expect Libreoffice to be a normal software which normal people can install.
Knowing sudo apt should be okay. No CPU ISA level whatsoever.

Using an office software shouldn’t require a garage pass, or a posh PC.

I only noticed that on one of my machines the v26.xx Libreoffice appimage didn’t start.
I find it rude that they don’t announce that older CPUs are dropped.

While opening to the East, Libreoffice appears to drop the mission to provide a useful writing tool for people, and not only people with posh PCs or Macs.

Is this really the situation? Or am I missing something?

Peter

In your above mentioned link there is following website linked:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#Microarchitecture_levels
I can read there about x86-64-v2-level CPU:

Features match the 2008 Intel Nehalem architecture, excluding Intel-specific instructions.

Okay, if your hardware is older than from 2008 there will probably be a problem… :kissing_heart:

The Document Foundation.

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Looks like most of x86-64 since 2008 !!

btw. me runs several LibreOffice-versions on tiny low-budget-machines ( <100€) (RaspBerry Pi 4 and RaspBerry Pi 5 ) without any Hardware-Issues

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Thank you guys for your answers!

2008 I can easily accept as a divider on the timeline ! :slight_smile:

Otherwise:
The Document Foundation I could ave guessed, of course,
but there is a document format, too, ending in an “F” :slight_smile:

But, what I really meant was: how the hack does it translate that “builds by TDF”?
Okay, now that I’m typing, I realized:
if it is not compiled by you or me from source code,
but by TDF, it will require v2 CPUS.

This is how I translate it now…


as to v2 CPUs:
Thanks for the practical translation: CPUS after 2008…

To this I can attribute meaning :slight_smile:
However:
“a new four-level paging mechanism” would require some special engineering knowledge, I suppose…
I read it, of course…
I mean, I took a glance…

and realized that it is beyond my depth of knowledge in this field…

It would have been nice from TDF if they had added a notice, like, now, with v26, you’ll need v2 CPUS – i.e. after ca. 2008.


@ Grantler, Thanks for your taking the time to put that info here :slight_smile:
as well as to translate to practical meaning what that v2 means…

The fact of the matter is that that PC I consider a good one :slight_smile:
I don’t do computer games, I’m against it. But I edit sound and video, and once that doesn’t work well with a machine, I’ll drop it.

I use Ardour (and others) and KDENLIVE. And photo software too, like Darkroom. And Gimp, of course.

I mean: I define a strong enough PC like this, being good for these tasks.
Writing? Editing text?
I expect ANY PC to be absolutely usable for that.
LO Writer now can edit and render Markdown…
I would expect this as a step (a leap) toward simplicity, not the opposite direction :slight_smile:

I’m happy to use ANY PC with Writer. I believe this is the way it should work. Bumping into the limitations of a PC with Libreoffice is weird, if not absurd for me.

As to old hardware…

2008 was sure long time ago. But… the development of civilization hasn’t been “linear” at all…
Bicycles for example, were absolutely good in the '50s and even before… but by all means great in the '70 and upwards.
Today, all of a sudden, a bicycle means a motorbike… (motor equippped bike), and costs 10x more than a bicycle about 10 years ago.

Still, a bicycle from 1970 must be good.
A guitar from 1970 is also supposed to be good.
An amp, too.
If you want digital sound processing, well, use today’s technology. Past 10 years. But an amp or an effect pedal from decades ,ago, combined with an amp of those days, is actually what DSP effects emulate today.

Right now I use a netbook, travelling on a train. I bought it in 2012. I don’t watch video on it at all. Don’t edit video. Never did. But with Antix, it is a great netbook, sleek, and has a very good battery pack, and I enjoy using it.

PCs were made with nuclear war in mind – on the level of fiction. Their modular structure was meant to allow you to pick up from a post nuke war street’s garbage can any mobo and some RAM, and put together a PC that works.
I like this concept :slight_smile:

I’m getting to use markdown editors more and more.
I mean, why shoot with a canon at a flea?
Editing text should be piece of cake for any CPU.

THANKS for your response!

I have checked Debian: Trixie’s backport already has v26.xx LO …

At any rate: 2008 can be accepted as a sane separator on the timeline!!! :slight_smile: