Page, paragraph, table style windows overlapping settings

Operating System: EndeavourOS
KDE Plasma Version: 6.7.3
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.28.0
Qt Version: 6.11.1
Kernel Version: 6.18.38-3-lts (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: Wayland
Processors: 16 × AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 8-Core Processor
Memory: 64 GiB of RAM (62.7 GiB usable)
Graphics Processor: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
Libreoffice version: “Fresh” Can’t read, can’t highlight and copy, no copy button, but I reinstalled today (the entire suite).

I reinstalled because for quite a while now when I select any of the settings windows for document elements like paragraph, page, table… styles, those windows cannot be resized at all (not good in 2026) unless there are only a few settings, the settings overlap and only a few can be changed, and when I click on one instead of getting a drop down menu I get a pop up window detached from the settings window and at the top of the screen, and those too are only wide enough when the choices are small words, so the text doesn’t fit.

I have read what little I could find on it and that all says it’s due to the DE settings and screen scaling, but I cannot raise the resolution, or lower the font sizes without having to squint at the screen, and that with all apps, so that is not at all a solution, nor acceptable as one because for me it’s an accessibility issue.

I asked the AI in Duck duck go and it also can’t find a solution and had me on a multi hour goose chase changing the desktop files and all sorts and was getting ever deeper into stuff many apps rely on at risk of breaking all sorts, and it doesn’t listen, can’t remember what was already said and it got so frustrating I told it to F off! :laughing: Nothing works!

Even worse: for the last year or more I’ve noticed that there are fewer and fewer setting pages in the preferences, and after I reinstalled today (and I did delete the libreofffice4 folder first) there were no interface settings at all to lower change the font sizes and what not!

Look:

and:

Sorry to say it but for the last few years the problems with Libreoffice are not just more frequent, but worse problems that one can not work around, to the point its unusable, and I have decades worth of files made with it, and so it is now messing with my business big time, and the problems overwhelm any improvements. It’s really sad too because there is so much stuff with it that is already not intuitive, very impractical, not well thought out, nor user friendly, that has been for a very long time and when users ask for improvements we get a lot of they are not bugs but features and evasion… and a lot of arguing back and forth before anyone on your teams steps back thinks critically and rationally and finally understands why people are not at all unreasonable, and so Libreoffice went from taking Open office which was the same way, and improved it greatly, only to put it in knots and mess it all up again! That was your goal, but now you have become that which you forked OpenOffice for in the first place!

Try the LibreOffice with an another (free or commercial) operating system (at least with a free Linux Live version - without a real install…)

According yo your screenshots, it looks like you have customised the OS default font.

Open the KDE system settings and go to the Text & Fonts tab, Fonts pane. You can set font face and size for various “contexts” (general, window title, menu, …).

Also, you are under dark theme. Though management greatly improved, check you have the same issue in light theme. You can also try to change the OS theme (because it usually also changes the default font).

PS: you gave a detailed description of your configuration except LO version.

That is not enough information to do and find out it doesn’t work, as I have been on too many wild goose chases with this already, so do you suspect something specific, or have some theory?

On that note EndeavourOS is pretty much unembellished Arch, and uses the Arch repos.

Yes and have been using that font for over a decade without problems.

I can try changing the font size to test it, but which context would help, what type of window is it?

Same with changing the theme, I don’t mind doing so for testing, but will not want to keep it, because I would be changing it pretty much for everything and all apps, and that for the only app that can’t handle it, as a terrible workaround, and I would rather have an actual fix.

I’m used to giving a good description as you may need it, but I described why I can’t give you LO’s version, because LO can’t display it right (same problem) and has no way to do it like most other apps, so it’s not on me. But heres from my package manager: 26.2.4-4

I will get back to you in a few minutes.

I forgot to say I’m just using Breeze Dark.

I just switched to Noto Sans (all of them): No change.

Though it should take effect instantly for newly launched apps, reboot the computer just to make sure.

Rebooted, but no change.

One more thing: as part of chasing a ghost, I renamed all 3 GTK .config folders V2, 3, and 4, and haven’t changed them back, nor moved anything.

KDE Plasma is not based on GTK but on Qt. So, in principle, tweaking GTK settings should have not effect. In principle if your LO is correctly configured. Here under Fedora, LO has 4 widget interface packages: libreoffice-x11, libreoffice-kf6, libreoffice-gtk3 and libreoffice-gtk4. Ensure that …-kf6 is installed and active. You can tell with HlepAbout LO, parameter VCL.

I know, but isn’t LO based on GTK though? AI suspected it’s XTG settings or something (It had me do so many things it’s way too much to remember correctly). I can read the VCL line, and it’s -kf6.

I am on Arch, and all I have in the repos is Libreoffice Fresh and Still, and have been using still hoping I would get fixes to some of my many problems with it.

I just swithed LO to light mode, closed and reopened LO, it’s still using Dark mode! :open_mouth: