Writer won't line up bottom line with images of different immutable heights

Version with

  1. header

  2. 1x3 table

  3. cell 2 text and cell 3 text. (how to center cells and text? I’m used to GIMP or Inkscape functions like distribution of multiple objects or easy GUI drag and drop software)
    Curriculum_vitae_name_202512291610.pdf (15.3 KB)

Version with

  1. header

  2. 1x3 table

  3. cell 2 text, cell 3 text

  4. dragged and dropped images into cell 1 (2 images), cell 2 (2 images) and cell 3 (2 images).
    Curriculum_vitae_name_202512191614.odt (1.1 MB)

Version with

  1. header

  2. 1x3 table

  3. cell 2 text, cell 3 text

  4. dragged and dropped images into cell 1 (2 images), cell 2 (2 images) and cell 3 (2 images)

  5. selected each image, keyboard arrows to align images along base line as best as possible. (how to align on base line of header? I’m used to software where I tap Shift+arrows or some other funky function)
    Curriculum_vitae_name_202512191619.odt (1.1 MB)

Version with

  1. header

  2. 1x3 table

  3. cell 2 text and cell 3 text. (how to center cells and text? I’m used to GIMP or Inkscape functions like distribution of multiple objects or easy GUI drag and drop software)

  4. centered 3 columns and reduced cell 3’s text to 9 pt.
    Curriculum_vitae_name_202512191715.odt (10.6 KB)

Version with

  1. header
  2. 1x3 table
  3. cell 2 text, cell 3 text
  4. entered a new line below cell 3’s email line
  5. dragged and dropped images into cell 1 (2 images), cell 2 (2 images) and cell 3 (2 images)
  6. selected each image, keyboard arrows to align images along base line as best as possible. (how to align on base line of header? I’m used to software where I tap Shift+arrows or some other funky function)
    Curriculum_vitae_name_202512191725.odt (1.1 MB)

Do you mean both horizontally and vertically? Horizontal alignment is a property of paragraph. Vertical alignment is a property of table (see Text Flow tab).

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CV_2025121191725.odt ??? Have you looked at my updated answer, below “EDIT”?

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Thx, I centered the header table cells via: Tap table for cursor activation → tap Table tab → mouse over Select → tap Table → tap Table tab → mouse over Size → tap Distribute Columns Evenly

I just viewed Curriculum_vitae_name_tbl_ajl.odt and understand your solution with header table’s new row 2, for aligning the 6 images on the bottom line.

However, cell 3 email address has a blank line under it which I can’t remove, so I’ll just create a new document, as this was simply an Enter that created the line space below the email address…curious that this Enter line cannot be reversed.

Image 1 needs to be aligned on the bottom and top lines, to adhere to PARC principles (Proximity, Alignment, Repetition and Contrast), which will add symmetric balance to the header.
Image 1 will not breach row 2’s top line, so this is my next challenge.
I’m assuming I can tighten up row 2’s space above images 2-6.

Version with

  1. header

  2. 2x3 table

  3. cell 2 text, cell 3 text

  4. dragged and dropped images into cell a,2 (2 images), cell b,2 (2 images) and cell c,2 (2 images)

  5. selected each image, keyboard arrows to align images along base line as best as possible. (how to align on base line of header table row 2, they images auto align to top of header table row 2?

Next step, working on Image 1, image properties for sizes and something about aligning to row 2 bottom.
Curriculum_vitae_name_202512191754.odt (1.1 MB)

Your approach is faulty for 2 reasons.

First, frames (images) interact only with text, not with tables. If you don’t anchor As character, you’ll never be able to “jail” images inside the table unless you twist horribly the latter. And this will be done with direct formatting both on frames and tables. This creates a deadly nightmarish situation.

Second, there is a bug in LO Writer: even when frame are tagged Keep inside text boundaries, a header never increases to image size. Therefore, images will bleed into main text area. Again, you’ll be compelled to use direct format to attempt to fix the issue.

IMHO, the correct way to handle the situation is to turn your images into “text” (with anchor As character) so that they are handled by ordinary text management.

That said, I don’t understand what you want to do with your first image:

Image 1 needs to be aligned on the bottom and top lines, to adhere to PARC principles (Proximity, Alignment, Repetition and Consistency)

Should I read: “all images are bottom-aligned: image 1, taller, is allowed to bleed into row 1”?
If so, just merge left cells in rows 1 and 2, like this:
Curriculum_vitae_name_tbl_ajl.odt (1.1 MB)

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Ok, so all images are now Anchored As Character.
Images 2-6 have widths of 2.5 cm.
I moved images with the cursor, Enter and Space bar.
Image 1 needs to be on the bottom left of cell A,2 and top left of A,1.
Curriculum_vitae_name_202512191845.odt (1.1 MB)

Ok, working on merges now.

So this has Images As Characters and cells A,1 and A,2 merged.
Images 1 and 2 won’t align on the bottom line.

I thought I could merge the 2nd row and then distribute the 6 images horizontally, however this can be managed with the spacebar. More challenging seems to be managing images 1 and 2 vertically.
Curriculum_vitae_name_202512291859.odt (1.1 MB)

This version:
I merged cells B,2 and B,3 and simply added 4 spaces between images 3-6.

Unsure how to clean up images 1 and 2?
Curriculum_vitae_name_202512291908.odt (1.1 MB)

This version has a header table 2x6.

Images 2-6 still don’t distribute between cells B,2 and F,2 horizontally perfect, leaving a space to the right of image 6.
Image 1 is a mess and doesn’t align to the bottom left of cell B,1 or the top left of A,1.
Curriculum_vitae_name_202512291939.odt (1.1 MB)

This is my last post!

I told you to use styles to avoid problems (yes, I know, frame styles are difficult to tame). You persist in direct formatting (DF) your images. DF has catastrophic effects on frames and it is extremely difficult to clear.

First error: you forget to set vertical alignment in your merged cell in first column.

Second error: you probably used your mouse to reposition the image or did some other manual operation. This changed the reference position, setting it to From bottom instead of Bottom. The consequence is now Base Line instead of Character. Applying a dedicated style would have avoided this (see my sample).

Finally you space horizontally your images with space characters. This is utterly unreliable. There is a better way: instead of merging your cells, split them: one cell per image. Then with table properties you can center horizontally the image in its cell (and align it at bottom). You tune the width of the cells to ensure balanced position. Do it also on the merged first column. Everything will be controlled very accurately.

Note you still haven’t mentioned OS name nor the precise LO version.

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Sorry, I’m learning under the hood settings.
I’ll have a look tomorrow at your lower level settings.
Image 2 should be aligned bottom left of cell B2 and image 6 should be aligned bottom right of cell F2 and images 3, 4 and 5 distributed in between.
Image 1 could be aligned top left of cell A1 or bottom left of B2, to be decided pending PARC principles.
LO (LibreOffice):
Version: 7.4.7.2 / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 40(Build:2)
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 6.12; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: en-GB (en_GB.UTF-8); UI: en-GB
Debian package version: 4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9
Calc: threaded

rapi5@raspberrypi:~/go/pkg/mod $ cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="12"
VERSION="12 (bookworm)"
VERSION_CODENAME=bookworm
ID=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.debian.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://www.debian.org/support"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/"

Thank you for your time, here’s where I’m at working on a new document.

First error: Q1 would you say formatting with styles rather than direct formatting applies for image to tables or also images to whole documents?
Here’s the navigation path I used to solve as per your table styles solution.

Table

Alignment

Bottom of table row

Desktop → LibreOffice Writer 7.4.7.2 → right click blank space in cell → tap Table Properties… → tap Text Flow → Alignment → Vertical alignment → tap drop down menu → tap Bottom → tap OK.

Second error: I used keyboard arrows to move the images, which show the images still as Bottom rather than From bottom. (navigation path: Desktop → LibreOffice Writer 7.4.7.2 → right click frame/image → tap Properties… → Position and Size → Position → Vertical → Bottom → to Base line).

I understand the goal is Bottom to Character, as per author’s sample Curriculum_vitae_name_tbl_ajl.odt

I see Wrap tab, but I don’t see Type tab (tab seems to be named Position and Size)
I don’t understand this sentence: Then you can just click Original Size to autosize the frame.
Q2 Original here? (navigation path: Desktop → LibreOffice Writer 7.4.7.2 → right click frame/image → tap Properties… → Position and Size → Original Size)
Q3 Why would tapping Original to autosize back to original frame/image sizes be needed?

Sections were previously explained…I simply drag and dropped images and was prompted with an Insert Section window. I cancelled out, but those strange and empty page wide table lookalikes remained.
Curiously, today dragging and dropping into LibreOffice Writer succeeds with no bugs.

I don’t fully understand this sentence: centrally tuning your layout by playing only with styles (effect is immediate on all occurrences). Q4 Could you provide an example how this works and might be useful please?

I’m trying to work with LibreOffice Writer, but this is a world away from learners who can drag and drop on proprietary software when not having time for these manual steps.

Q5 Dedicated style, what might that be please? Your example Curriculum_vitae_name_tbl_ajl.odt isn unclear as I see different image/frame sizes in image/frame Properties.

Q6 What is Formula, is this like a Macro? As per your sentence: I modified built-in frame style Formula (because it anchors As character)
I checked all images/frames in Curriculum_vitae_name_tbl_ajl.odt and the sizes are all different and not a consistent 2x2cm. Q7 Does this mean the formula style is not applying on my version of LibreOffice Writer 7.4.7.2?

Third error: using split cells and horizontally centering images will leave images 2 and 6 out of kilt.
Image 1 must be aligned either top left off cell A1 or bottom left of cell A2, to be decided when viewable.
Image 2-5 must be horizontally distributed between images 1 and 6.
Image 6 must be aligned bottom right of cell F2.

Currently working on a new document with author’s suggestions (except for image horizontal distribution)


This has the images set to 25mm width in Gimp, then dragged and dropped in, but weird things happening.
Distributing the 5 or 6 images also seem impossible with LO, so might return to Google Docs or just have text.

Curriculum_vitae_name_202512311110.odt (87.7 KB)

It is best practice because it gives consistency and makes it easier to make global changes . The exception is for tables, never use table styles (unless you are an expert on them) as they are not real styles but macros that will override any formatting, character or paragraph styles used in a table.

Yes, or in Crop tab

It should not be needed, something unexpected happened. Make sure there is room in the table row to accommodate your images before you start adding them

An alternative method that also works:
If you were to use Draw to align and distribute the images using the tools in that program, then you could paste the entire block of images as a single item into Writer without using a table. Right click the image and select Enter Group to make changes within the group.
Curriculum_vitae_name_202512311110EA.odt (46.9 KB)