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asked 2020-04-28 22:46:04 +0100

Russ G gravatar image

We're working in LibreOffice Writer 5.4, Windows 10, creating a file for output as a PDF for a book. Most pages have a JPG image as a background.

We are having an odd problem. After inserting an image on a page it will jump to the following page. Unfortunately, my girlfriend doesn't recall exactly when it would jump but it was after the image had been inserted and another action or two had been taken. She thinks, as best as she recalls, that when she when to insert an image on the following page, page 5, for example, that the image from page 4 would jump to page 5.

She also noticed that a horizontal gray dashed line appears between pages except for the page that is the problem page and those adjacent to it. What do those lines mean? We wonder if that is a clue. I've illustrated where we see and don't see this dashed line in the included image.

Any suggestions as to what the problem might be and how to fix it would be appreciated.

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When you print or export the pages, are the lines still there??

ve3oat gravatar imageve3oat ( 2020-04-29 02:15:59 +0100 )edit

We haven't tried that but we would not expect them to export or print as they are just part of the user interface that would normally not export or print.

Russ G gravatar imageRuss G ( 2020-04-29 02:31:58 +0100 )edit

The dashed line starts beside the green little squares (handles). There is a green handle just above the right green handle, too. Is there any hidden image selected? Or malfunction? Could you upload a sample file on a file hoster for better checking your file?

Grantler gravatar imageGrantler ( 2020-04-29 08:16:24 +0100 )edit

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answered 2020-04-29 08:25:16 +0100

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The dashed line is a visual feedback to indicate the presence of a manual page break (inserted with Ctrl+Enter).

The reason why an image would jump to another page is related to text flow, mainly how the image is "anchored" to an object managed by text flow, usually a paragraph.

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@Mike Kaganski: I just deleted a comment by @EmilyBrown who seems to be a spammer.

ajlittoz gravatar imageajlittoz ( 2020-04-29 10:00:26 +0100 )edit

@ajlittoz: good; but I'm missing the context - had I made something here? (I don't remember, sorry.)

Mike Kaganski gravatar imageMike Kaganski ( 2020-04-29 10:57:22 +0100 )edit

@Mike Kaganski: no, you aren't involved here. I just notified you because you seem to be one of the "bosses" for this site.

ajlittoz gravatar imageajlittoz ( 2020-04-29 11:09:52 +0100 )edit

heh - no I'm not. I'm here completely as a volunteer, although I happen to know people who run this, and sometimes notify them on some problems (which is welcomed from everyone).

Mike Kaganski gravatar imageMike Kaganski ( 2020-04-29 11:43:11 +0100 )edit

@Mike Kaganski: the most serious problem with this site is there doesn't seem to be an official administrator who could handle all the problems and work out maintenance.

ajlittoz gravatar imageajlittoz ( 2020-04-29 12:00:42 +0100 )edit

Out of the top 20 users, only manj_k qualifies as Administrator (but not seen since 2014) and qubit as Moderator. All others are mere Registered Users. So, from a novice point of view, nobody to report to!

ajlittoz gravatar imageajlittoz ( 2020-04-29 12:06:21 +0100 )edit

Agree - and that's sad.

Mike Kaganski gravatar imageMike Kaganski ( 2020-04-29 12:58:45 +0100 )edit

Thank you. That sounds like it may be useful. I'm not sure I quite understand, however. You've mentioned some things that I think are above my pay grade.

You wrote "The reason why an image would jump to another page is related to text flow, mainly how the image is "anchored" to an object managed by text flow, usually a paragraph." Anchoring is not something we have really thought about or done anything about, not intentionally, anyway. I opened a template document we use for projects like the book we are working on and inserted an image as we have been doing. Then I checked to see the default anchoring. It was anchored to paragraph.

What exactly about anchoring would cause an image to jump to the page after the one in was inserted into?

BTW, pretty much all we do is to insert images. create new pages ...(more)

Russ G gravatar imageRuss G ( 2020-04-29 22:02:31 +0100 )edit

Also, you wrote that the dashed line is evidence of the existence of a manual page break. Well, that's the only way I know of to add pages to the document we're working on. We have to place one on a page in order to create another page after it.

In the image I posted originally there is no dashed line under the left side page but there are several pages before and after it. Wouldn't this mean that there has to be a page break on that page (the left hand page), and if there's a page break shouldn't there be a dashed line between the images on the left side? In other words, there has to be a page break on the page where my red text is or there couldn't be any subsequent pages, and if there is a page break ...(more)

Russ G gravatar imageRuss G ( 2020-04-29 22:28:42 +0100 )edit

To be honest I'm also puzzled by the dashed line only under the right-hand page. And it's also the first time I see an image extending beyond the page limits (unless images for left-hand and right-hand pages are so carefully aligned and positioned that they look seamless).

To answer your question, combination of anchor and wrap mode may be such that you don't need to insert page breaks to overflow to next page. Your book looks so much out of common paths that I'd like to have a technical look at it (at least a 4-5 pages sample), in addition to the fact that you don't master the concept and follow pre-boiled in-house procedure.

It seems a case where page anchoring would be legitimate. This and your use of text boxes instead of frames or ordinary paragraphs probably indicate that your fit-for-the-task tool would rather ...(more)

ajlittoz gravatar imageajlittoz ( 2020-04-29 22:52:31 +0100 )edit
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