What about "Personal Edition" in V 7.0?

asked 2020-07-12 11:17:18 +0100

Lupp gravatar image

updated 2020-07-13 12:01:53 +0100

The new version 7.0 (currently is showing an inscript "Personal Edition" on its start screen above two new buttons of doubtable value.
What is this supposd to tell me?
Is it just a joke?
(How to remove it?)

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Hmmm. No criticism, of course. ;-)

Lupp gravatar imageLupp ( 2020-07-12 12:24:56 +0100 )edit

In the world of non-free software, a personal edition is a trimmed-down version of a program with limited functionality.

I wonder, where do those morons live, who try to enforce “personal edition” for a full-featured LibreOffice. On Mars? On Pluto?

gabix gravatar imagegabix ( 2020-07-12 21:50:31 +0100 )edit

Those morons try to make sure that full-featured LibreOffice is available for all and without any "free core" limitations, by just trying to lure some businesses to consider switching from standard (professionally unsupported) LibreOffice to LibreOffice derivatives (like Collabora Office or LibreOffice by CIB) created and provided by those TDF partners who contribute major parts. That way, those paying businesses would provide necessary basis for those partners to stay alive and continue their current mode of contributing.

I don't think that "I hate this; no matter what the real world is, I know that there must be the way to solve all the possible problems, which doesn't change my comfort zone", especially expressed like that, is some constructive way of thinking.

Mike Kaganski gravatar imageMike Kaganski ( 2020-07-12 22:06:28 +0100 )edit

no matter what the real world is

It seems to be the LO developers’ motto now.

Who cares that many people use the Breeze theme? Just remove it! Who cares that ‘personal edition’ is synonymous to ‘limited feature edition’ (why bother with a mere web search for the phrase in question)? Just put this label on! Yes, this is a model of constructive way of thinking.

gabix gravatar imagegabix ( 2020-07-13 06:52:40 +0100 )edit

Who cares that many people use the Breeze theme? Just remove it!

Do you think that picking an unrelated topic strengthens your point? It just makes it look carelesslly thought.

Who cares that ‘personal edition’ is synonymous to ‘limited feature edition’ (why bother with a mere web search for the phrase in question)? Just put this label on!

Did you look at the history of the label? It was chosen from a range of options; it was chosen exactly because it was likely to nudge some decision makers in enterprises in the proper direction (as personal is opposed to enterprise). It wasn't set in stone, and is discussed; and now-preferred "community" was originally ruled out exactly because of the reason you refer to - because it reminds of those "community editions" that are cut down, functionally incomplete versions. What calls to some associations in you, may have different connotations in others.

Mike Kaganski gravatar imageMike Kaganski ( 2020-07-13 07:51:48 +0100 )edit

Side remark while I prepare a long answer (instead of a comment) for this question which incidentally asks about tags: wouldn't this be a meta question instead of common?

It is about policy not about a concrete problem occurring with the suite daily usage.

ajlittoz gravatar imageajlittoz ( 2020-07-13 08:22:25 +0100 )edit

@ajlittoz: Thanks for caring.
However, even having read the answer you posted to the other topic, I'm not quite sure if I had tagged my question here meta in place of common having known it earlier. After all, I also posted it before I had read the Board statement@Mike Kaganski linked to, and one of my level2-questions was about how to remove the addressed label (and probably the buttons). One of my motivations: I simply disliked the "new things". I also dislike lots of features of anything related to marketing and fund-raising, and ... - and this may have a philosphical background, and is "multi-backgrounded" in fact.
I willtried to add the tag metanow (if this works), but it didn't work.
Well, I found the right way meanwhile. Will forget it till next time.

Lupp gravatar imageLupp ( 2020-07-13 11:57:09 +0100 )edit

@Lupp: your question is effectively hard to classify. For everything related to UI, it is a common question. For the ground debate, it is a meta question.

That said, my personal preference would be for status quo in the "free" edition and an added "enterprise-something" for the value-added edition. "Personal edition" has a somewhat negative impact for me. But again the "enterprise-something" should not be intrusive (I have not seen the v7.0 branding) at the point where it obliterates the logo or tag but should come as an additional information about support (a subtitle, not the main title), perhaps after LibreOffice is a modern … line or a modified This release was supplied by <value-added supporter> in the About LibreOffice dialog.

ajlittoz gravatar imageajlittoz ( 2020-07-13 12:29:37 +0100 )edit

@ajlittoz: it's a common idea: let the status quo to be, and go try solving your problems elsewhere. While not guaranteed to work, the current change is targeted at the place which is used by those who are the target group. I't unwise to suggest "go to the backyard and stick your ads there", when it's known that people who should read it don't walk there. It's the same "I want my things to not change; you must do whatever you like, except touching my comfort zone - it's your problem that my comfort zone covers exactly the problematic place".

Mike Kaganski gravatar imageMike Kaganski ( 2020-07-13 12:37:42 +0100 )edit