Anti-symmetrization : Different size left and right occurs for a pair of square brackets

[DanielVolinski]

I need to write this formula:

{bold C} sub {{color red %alpha} {color red %mu} {color red %lambda} {color red %sigma}}
 =  {bold R} sub {{color red %alpha} {color red %mu} {color red %lambda} {color red %sigma}}
 -  { 2 over {n-2} }
 left ( { {func g} sub {{color red %alpha}
     left [ {color red %lambda} right none} {bold R} sub {left none {{color red %sigma}} right ] {color red %mu}}
   - {func g} sub {{color red %mu}
     left [ {color red %lambda} right none} {bold R} sub {left none {color red %sigma} right ] {color red %alpha}} }
 right )

However, the square brackets (meaning anti-symmetrization) are not the same size: the left square bracket is bigger than the right square bracket.

Is there any way to make them equal size?

Thanks,

Daniel Volinski

[LeroyG]

I see no difference with:
Version: 24.2.7.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: ee3885777aa7032db5a9b65deec9457448a91162
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19043; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: es-AR (es_AR); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded


Could it be a difference in font?

[Zizi64]

@DanielVolinski

sub {left none {{color red %sigma}} right ] {color red %mu}}

You have put the closing (right) square bracket inside of the “sub” (subscript) command. And maybe the LO resizes the bracket to the adjacent letters located INSIDE of the (non visible/visible) brackets

[DanielVolinski]

Hi LeroyG,

Thank you for your response.

This is strange, I see a significant difference in the size of those brackets:

I’m using

Version: 6.4.5.2 (x64)
Build ID: a726b36747cf2001e06b58ad5db1aa3a9a1872d6
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19045; UI render: default; VCL: win;
Locale: en-US (en_US); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: CL

Is it possible there has been a significant change in this subject?

Daniel Volinski

En jueves, 2 de enero de 2025, 22:26:21 GMT+2, LeroyG via Ask LibreOffice noreply@ask.libreoffice.org escribió:

	LeroyG January 2

I see no difference with:
Version: 24.2.7.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: ee3885777aa7032db5a9b65deec9457448a91162
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19043; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: es-AR (es_AR); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

Could it be a difference in font?

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[EarnestAl]

@DanielVolinski

Is it possible there has been a significant change in this subject?

See ReleaseNotes/24.2 - The Document Foundation Wiki
.
Also in 25.2 due in February, an area to store formulas for reuse.

[Lupp]

@DanielVolinski

Is it possible there has been a significant change in this subject?

I edited the subject line because I felt sure that other users with the same problem would not search for “Anti-symmetrization".
This ask site should also be seen as a repository of knowledge. The next user having the same or a very similar problem shouldn’t need to ask a new question in every case.
Please tell me if you think my attempt to clarify things failed.
Of course you can also edit the subject again yourself.

[Lupp]

I can reproduce the bug with V 6.4.5.2 Portable (32 bit).
The solution is therefore to update to a more recent version where the bug is fixed.

Also @DanielVolinski: Your post above isn’t a suggested solution, but a response to a comment. You should “comment on the comment” using the Reply icon in such a case.

[Zizi64]

Here is a workaround tip with redundant {} codes for eliminate the “autosize” property of the bracket (tested in LO 7.5.8):

{bold C} sub {{color red %alpha} {color red %mu} {color red %lambda} {color red %sigma}}
 =  {bold R} sub {{color red %alpha} {color red %mu} {color red %lambda} {color red %sigma}}
 -  { 2 over {n-2} }
 left ( { {func g} sub {{color red %alpha}
     left [ {} {color red %lambda} {} right none} {bold R} sub {left none {}  {{color red %sigma}} {} right ] {color red %mu}}
   - {func g} sub {{color red %mu}
     left [ {} {color red %lambda} {} right none} {bold R} sub {left none {} {color red %sigma} {} right ] {color red %alpha}} }
 right )

[DanielVolinski]

Hi Wolfgang,

It’s all right with me to change the subject.

Hi Zizi64,

Thank you for your input, it works.

Daniel Volinski

En viernes, 3 de enero de 2025, 15:08:46 GMT+2, Tibor Kovács via Ask LibreOffice noreply@ask.libreoffice.org escribió:

	Zizi64 January 3

Here is a workaround tip with redundant {} codes for eliminate the “autosize” property of the bracket (tested in LO 7.5.8):

{bold C} sub {{color red %alpha} {color red %mu} {color red %lambda} {color red %sigma}}
 =  {bold R} sub {{color red %alpha} {color red %mu} {color red %lambda} {color red %sigma}}
 -  { 2 over {n-2} }
 left ( { {func g} sub {{color red %alpha}
     left [ {} {color red %lambda} {} right none} {bold R} sub {left none {}  {{color red %sigma}} {} right ] {color red %mu}}
   - {func g} sub {{color red %mu}
     left [ {} {color red %lambda} {} right none} {bold R} sub {left none {} {color red %sigma} {} right ] {color red %alpha}} }
 right )

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