How to set field page numbers to begin as something other than 1?

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#1

There should be three ways of inserting page numbering in a header:

  1. As outlined in the guidebook, insert simple page number on a new page style, with the first paragraph having a page break beforehand, with settings adjusted to start page number on user defined value. (This has two critical limitations for me. First, I can’t get it to work where I need it, namely, endnotes. Second, I have additional content in the header, which is why I’ve been using the Fields method instead for page numbering)
  2. Insert page numbering through the fields functionality. (However, I can’t seem to find how to set it to a page number other than the actual page number according to the odt doc, which isn’t what I want. Alternatively, I’ve been trying to set a custom range to match the page numbers I want, so, say, 200-220. I presume it’s possible to this via the Fields>More Fields settings… but I’ve been playing around with it and can’t find the way.
  3. Insert page numbers individually on a page-by-page basis, by having different header content for each page. (But for some reason I can’t seem to apply different header content to more than 3 pages in a given style.

Preferably I’d like to resolve this issue through setting the custom range of the field (2). It just seems easiest that way.
If that doesn’t work, I’d be willing to insert page numbers on a page-by-page basis (3). There aren’t that many pages which I must do this for.
I’d really like to avoid the simple page number insert method as I’ve already formatted my headers without it.

#2

Lol.
1 and 2 are identical. And additional content is not a problem for 1.
3 is natural, because page style is a style, and you have repeating content when you apply the style (it can have different content for first, left, and right pages, but all left pages will be same, and all right pages will be same). The same way, it would be fun to expect that you can apply the same font style to different places, and expect to have it different in different places - unless you do a manual modification, i.e., create an ad-hoc style.

The real problem is endnotes.
What is the specific situation, that requires you to change a normal flow of pages, when you are in endnotes?

#3

1 and 2 are identical.

Ah, so Insert>PageNumber is identical to Insert>Field>PageNumber? If so, I must’ve gotten mixed up when playing around with it. Hard to explain, but perhaps silly of me.

3 is natural, because page style is a style, and you have repeating content when you apply the style (it can have different content for first, left, and right pages, but all left pages will be same, and all right pages will be same). The same way, it would be fun to expect that you can apply the same font style to different places, and expect to have it different in different places - unless you do a manual modification, i.e., create an ad-hoc style.

But shouldn’t I be able to have different header content by deselecting the “same context first/left/right” page box? Otherwise, why should I have the option? And as for your comparison with font style, it’s not the page style I wish to change, but the content. I have lots of different font/paragraph styles, which enable consistency in format with differing content.

The real problem is endnotes.

So you see no way of beginning page numbering for endnotes page style at a value of my choice?

What is the specific situation, that requires you to change a normal flow of pages, when you are in endnotes?

Excuse me, but I can’t answer this. It’s happened many times, between my current ask.libre account and an older one, where I encounter a limitation/bug, exhaust the possibility of overcoming it, so decide to do a workaround. Then when I encounter another limitation or bug to such workaround and seek to overcome it through this site, the responders ask why am I doing this and advise me to do it differently, distracting from my question when I’m 100% sure I can’t do it the way they suggest because of other limitations/problems. (But if you’re merely curious: I’m formatting a book and need to export chapters to PDF individually and compile it all together, all endnotes at the very end, through PDF editor).

#4

When you use those options, you control if left pages have the same content as right pages, not if all pages have the same content. When the same content left/right is checked, then all left pages will have the same content as all right pages. When it’s unchecked, all left pages will have the same content, which will be different from the content of right pages (right pages will all have their own same content).

Headers and footers - in their entirety, including their “content” - constitute (part of) the formatting of pages. That is how it is in Writer. Page styles do not provide you additional space for content. They provide only formatting / styling. Varying of the headers’/footers’ content is only allowed in one of the three ways: (1) use fields, which change dynamically (e.g., page numbers / heading fields; but note how the technical “content” is still the same there, like all page headers would still have <Field_X>); (2) use different left/right/first headers/footers (knowing that the difference will be only between left and right, or first; but not between page 2 and page 4); or (3) use different page styles (which wil have their own headers/footers).

Shrug. Someone insisting that they know exactly how their problem must be solved. But if I were you, I would have a separate single technical empty page before endnotes, and would set its number to what I need.

#5

When you use those options, you control if left pages have the same content as right pages, not if all pages have the same content. When the same content left/right is checked, then all left pages will have the same content as all right pages. When it’s unchecked, all left pages will have the same content, which will be different from the content of right pages (right pages will all have their own same content).

So these boxes allow for 3 possibilities and up to 3 variations (V), when there are four options (O):
O1: Check “same content on first page”. (V1 = all)
O2: Check “same content on left and right pages”. (V1 = left, V2 = right)
O3: Check both. (V1 = all)
O4: Check neither. (V1 = 1st page, V2 = left from page 2 onwards, V3 = right from page 2 onwards)
O1 and O3 are identical. It’d make sense to shorted the options to three.
But it’d make more sense to allow for a fourth option which allows different header content for each page. My case provides a good example of why such an option is important. Books with lots of endnotes often have a header at the top of each page saying “Endnotes from pages 49-103” etc. etc. LibreWriter doesn’t, but should, allow this to be formatted, right?

#6

Shrug. Someone insisting that they know exactly how their problem must be solved .

I insist on knowing how it can’t be solved :wink: (through compiling the book through LibreWriter instead of PDF editor). Just trying to save time.

But if I were you, I would have a separate single technical empty page before endnotes, and would set its number to what I need.

This is my solution. Thanks.

#7

No. First page can ne managed independently from left/right.

This is handled with fields. Fields retrieve some information from context and this is echoed in the header or footer.

#8

I don’t understand. “Same content on first page” means first page header/footer is same as subsequent pages. It doesn’t matter therefore if left and right (subsequent) pages are the same or not.

I can’t find how fields can insert the header I suggest, differing on each page of the endnotes in accordance to the pages where the endnotes below correspond to.

#9

Sigh.

  1. “Same content on left and right pages” checked; “Same content on first page” checked. First = left = right.

  2. “Same content on left and right pages” checked; “Same content on first page” unchecked. First is separate; left = right.

  3. “Same content on left and right pages” unchecked; “Same content on first page” checked. Left is separate from right; First is not separate.

  4. “Same content on left and right pages” unchecked; “Same content on first page” unchecked. First is separate; left is separate; right is separate.

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