Use shortcuts styles for Writer on notebook

When I use short on a long 102 keys keyboard, I like to use :

  • Ctrl + 1 for header 1
  • Ctrl + 2 for header 2
  • Ctrl + 3 for header 3
  • Ctrl + 0 for text

But on a notebook, I can’t find this shortcut.
Ctrl + 1 ou Ctrl + Shift + 1 don’t work.

Have you an idea to make it so usefull on a notebook ?

Thanks.

Hello Francois

from your name, I suppose you’re French, aren’t you?
This would mean that you’re using a French AZERTY keyboard on a laptop without a numpad. Thus the number keys have to be pressed from the keyboard upper row. On AZERTY keyboards those characters are obtained only with the Shift key pressed, thus the shortcuts are Ctrl + Shift + 1 (etc.).

Moreover, in these conditions, some shortcuts cannot be reached at all. For instance, on my AZERTY keyboard laptop, I can’t get the Ctrl + 1 combination (Calc shortcut for Format > Cell).

Second thought about this.

On your laptop, just add a Shift + Ctrl + 1 Writer shortcut pointing to Heading 1 style (Titre 1) and you’re set.

That’s right, I’m french and use an AZERTY keyboard on my laptop :slight_smile:
And You’re right, it does’nt work.
But the Ctrl + Shift + 0 works by default and change to “default text”.

Ctrl + shift + 1 don’t apply the header 1.
In the Tools / Customize menu, I see that Shift + Ctrl + 0 is assigned, but the others are grey.
Why ?

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I manually try to add these shortcuts :
Ctrl + Shift F2 : header 1
Ctrl + Shift F2 : header 2
Ctrl + Shift F3 : header 3
Ctrl + Shift F10 : body text

and it works, but less natural.

I made some tests with different shortcuts :
For example :
Alt + 1 for Header 1 don’t work
But
Alt + Shift + 1 for header 1 works.

Finally, I choose to use the Alt + Shift + number shortcut rather than F1…
It’s more close that the original shortcut in 102 keys keyboard.

But it’s surprising, that the shortcuts so usefull only works on a specific keyboard.

Thanks a lot.

“Just” another AZERTY hicup :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

This problem is specific to AZERTY ?

Yes, because of the top row numbers position, requiring to Shift them.
On a QWERTY keyboard, numbers are obtained directly.
This is why some French-speaking people prefer some kind of QWERTZ disposition (ex: Swiss) because it eases key access (getting to the dot is also a problem on AZERTYs because on the alpha zone this key must also be shifted). Well, not perfect, anyway.

Not exclusively to AZERTY.

Shortcuts are not tested against the character generated by the keyboard but against the key combination. I won’t enter into the details between the physical and virtual key codes (I think applications only use virtual key codes). What is tested is the key codes for the “main key” plus modifiers (shit, alt, control, …) key codes. Since presenting the hexadecimal keycode in the shortcut dialog is not user-friendly, the principal engraving is retained. This is no problem for the alphabetical section of the keyboard, but all others have double engravings, e.g. in your case & and 1. So, defining shortcuts Ctrl+Shift+1 and Ctrl+Shift+& are equivalent because 1 and & have the same virtual keycode in the AZERTY layout.

And even the alphabetical section is ambiguous in its representation. Key A generates lowercase “a”. You must press Shift to get uppercase “A”.