How to make outline level buttons larger in calc in Windows 11

This version info is a copy/paste from the About box, it says Windows 10 but I’m using Windows 11 (see below)
Version: 24.2.0.3 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: da48488a73ddd66ea24cf16bbc4f7b9c08e9bea1
CPU threads: 16; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 22631; UI render: Skia/Vulkan; VCL: win
Locale: en-US (en_US); UI: en-US
Calc: CL threaded

My version of windows:
Windows 11 Pro, 10.0.22631 Build 22631

I’m looking to fix these itty bitty grouping level buttons. They overlap and are near impossible to click on. The numbers in the screenshot say 1 2 3. In order to click, I need to click the upper left pixels of the button.

I did some searching around and couldn’t find anything other than toggling Skia but that didn’t change anything. I have an older LibreOffice on my Windows 10 and the whole side margin is much wider and regular buttons.

image

Thanks for any suggestions!
Scott

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On the same computer, LibreOffice 6.4.7.2 appears the same size as 24.2.1.2
OutlineButtons6-4vs24-2
It seems that the scale or resolution on the older computer is different, Start menu > Settings > System > Display > Scale & Layout

AFAIK there isn’t an easy, user defined way to change the size of the Outline buttons in LibreOffice.

Hi, here is the example doc in xlsx format
Outline levels issue.xlsx (11.5 KB)

Screenie from excel. So my other laptop (don’t have a screenie with that one just yet), looked very similar to excel where there was a lot more space and bigger buttons.
image

Thanks for the help!
Scott

Unfortunately, there isn’t a built-in way to directly increase the size of the outline level buttons in LibreOffice Calc, even on Windows 11. Here’s what we know from the information you provided:

  • This seems to be a specific issue with LibreOffice version 24.2.0.3 on Windows 11 with Skia rendering enabled.

  • Older versions on Windows 10 might have a wider margin , making the buttons easier to click.

Here are some options you can consider:

  1. Toggle UI Rendering Engine: While you mentioned trying Skia, you could try switching between Skia and the other available rendering engine (usually GDI) in LibreOffice settings. This might affect the overall look of the interface, but it’s worth a shot to see if it changes the button size.

  2. Check for Updates: There might be newer versions of LibreOffice available that address this issue. It’s always a good practice to keep your software updated.

  3. Use Zoom: As a temporary workaround, you can use the zoom function (Ctrl + or mouse wheel) to temporarily enlarge the spreadsheet view, making the buttons easier to click.

  4. Consider Alternatives: If the button size is a major hindrance, you might explore alternative spreadsheet software [advertising removed - EarnestA] that offers more customization options for the interface elements.

While there’s no perfect solution right now, hopefully, these options provide some direction to improve your experience with LibreOffice Calc.

No. It is the size set in the code. The same size as in Windows 10 too

  1. Nothing to do with rendering engine
  2. Different versions are all the same size
  3. Zoom won’t affect the size of the Outline buttons. The settings in Windows, Start menu > Settings > System > Display > Scale & Layout, will.
  4. You can explore different software but all software has advantages and disadvantages, this seems a minor issue on which to change completely. I have removed your advertising which go against the rules here.

Hi, thanks for the suggestions so far. I did try adjusting scale & layout and it scales as expected but the problem is still there. For the heck of it, I tried switching my theme from dark to light in windows 11 and still the same overlapping button issue.

The buttons for outline mode are still usable which is nice. Not sure if it’ll help but hopefully a little later I can get ahold of my old laptop with an older libre office calc and post a screenshot with the same file. That one runs windows 10.

It would be interesting to see if I can downgrade to that version on my windows 11 to that same version on my windows 10.

Thanks!
Scott