Writer closes down unexpectedly

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#1

Hello,

Several times recently I have lost work because of a fault with Writer. In each case, I have been typing and the page will suddenly disappear and Writer closes down. When I re-open Writer I opt to recover the file but am then presented with a blank page. All work lost !!

I have tried saving the file every few minutes but this morning I forgot and have lost some quite complex legal work. The thought of having to start again gives me the eebie-jeebies.

Does any kind person have a solution please ?

Version: 7.5.5.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: ca8fe7424262805f223b9a2334bc7181abbcbf5e
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 22621; UI render: Skia/Vulkan; VCL: win
Locale: en-GB (en_GB); UI: en-GB
Calc: CL threaded

Edition Windows 11 Home
Version 22H2
Installed on ‎09/‎07/‎2023
OS build 22621.2215
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22662.1000.0
#2

Does the writer hide the space between pages? This function gives crashes in high frequency.

#3

Independently of any potential bug(s), the structure of your document contributes to (in)stability.

First , saving in non native format, i.e. other then .odt
This causes repeated and cumulative translations between internal and external formats which contribute to progressive formatting loss. You didn’t mention your save format.

Using many “non-flow” objects
Tables and images (frames) put some stress on Writer when it tries to flow text. And really worse, nested tables or frames are quite difficult to handle. Use tables and frames only when necessary, i.e. for data which is really “tabular” by nature. Don’t use tables for layout or use them with parsimony.

Direct formatting
This is really a plague. Writer is designed to be driven by styles. Styles collect under a single name various formatting attributes (paragraph, character, page, frame, numbering) which are then common-factored. If you direct format your document (and I refer mainly to character styles because they don’t exist in M$ Word), ther is no “common factor” and formatting directives are repeated over and over everywhere, contributing to document size inflation.


If you want more ad hoc advice, attach a sample of your document to your question (it is editable, you don’t need a new comment for that).

#4

Thanks for your response. The lost document was a single page. I don’t remember off-hand whether Writer hides spaces or not.

#5

Draft230824-2.odt (30.8 KB)
Thanks for your rapid response. I opened a pre-formatted style document in *.odt format. I have not yet re-written the lost document but attach a similar document. The only extra formatting is para numbering and increased para spacing.

Would it help if I renamed the document as soon as it is opened ?

Look forward to your response.

#6

A quick glance at your sample file shows it is exclusively direct formatting. Your usage of Writer is not higher than a 1950s typewriter (or even earlier). Even a 10-page direct formatted simple document such as yours should not cause Writer crash. You probably have a problem with your computer configuration. I recently discovered how sensitive to apparently innocuous details an install can be, mainly under Windows.

That said, a few remark on how to use Writer.

Default Paragraph Style should not be used routinely. All other styles inherit from it. For this reason, Default Paragraph Style role is to set shared customisation for the whole document, i.e. user defaults such as preferred font, size, paragraph spacing, alignment, … “Standard” style for text is Text Body.

Inter-paragraph spacing should not be done with empty paragraphs. This spacing should be defined inside the style configuration. One of the reasons is paragraph constitutes the basic significance unit in Writer. It has contents and semantics (one significance = one paragraph style). Empty paragraph has no contents, hence no significance. You should get rid of them. See how you increased paragraph spacing in your list items (though with direct formatting, which means it is specific to each occurrence instead of being shared in a style).

This request can be fulfilled with templates. A template is a document similar to your “draft”. It is saved as .ott (and this is the sole difference with ordinary .odt documents). However, when you open a template, it is immediately changed to an .odt with name Untitled x.odt to prevent template overwriting.

#7

It might be some graphics issue. Try this: Click Tools > Options > LibreOffice > View and tick the box Force Skia software rendering, OK. You will need to restart LibreOffice for it to take effect.

Your help will then read …Skia/Raster…

#8

I see. No need to improve the skill in urgent. Just to say here are hidden bugs. If you are in hurry, try Onedrive(Microsoft Office in browser), Google drive, etc.

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